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Old 05-01-2014, 02:40 PM
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You didn't ask a math problem. You asked one's preference between the two.


It is not a personal preference, just wondering what someone would do. first you would need to do math to figure out the final numbers for your year.. then choose which one.
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:56 PM
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It is not a personal preference, just wondering what someone would do. first you would need to do math to figure out the final numbers for your year.. then choose which one.
There is no difference however one will be able to do his math long before the other.
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Old 05-01-2014, 03:15 PM
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The gross income may be the same but the wear and tear plus the # of hours means the total Cost would be much higher doing 200 trips vs 100 trips.
1 example:


200 trips 100 trips
140000 gross 140000 gross
100000 cost 50000 cost
40000 profit 90000 profit

Cost of sitting at the dock = priceless!!

I like open boats, just another option if you do not like combat fishing on a PArty boat!! but I have never seen an open boat blue fish trip??
I hope this is a great year and we all live to tell about !!!

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Old 05-01-2014, 03:40 PM
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You know the anger that this thread provoked really surprised me. Sal posted his opinion, based on his experience of what captains are doing to their businesses. He doesn't run open boat trips. That's all, and it was really directed to the captains. . The response from individual anglers, that he doesn't run the same boat all of the time, that he values his own opinion too highly, or that the anglers are going to take their open trip business elsewhere doesn't affect him at all. To say he went to Florida and died was just low class. Internet keyboards and bad weather bring out the worst in people. Like Forest Gump..."That's all I have to say about that."
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:01 PM
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I understand & respect both sides to this argument. Unfortunately, its a sign of the times. Just like the internet has changed the way fishermen buy their tackle! Its not favorable for the actual business who does it full time, but its the way things are going these days and we need to adapt or die.

2 Sides to this:
1- The "charter boat" can offer you a date in stone, while the open boat may not. You know that you are fishing with family & friends, no chance of the trip turning ugly with a stranger who may not see things the way you do. Last thing I want is a stranger getting drunk when my kids are on a trip. I will never take them on an open trip.

2- The way the conditions always change, its nice to know that you can make a call and get fishing in a day or two. This is a big plus in the eyes of a fisherman. ( plus it puts most of the work on the captain, not yourself)

The internet has changed this industry big time! Al you need today is to post photos and your booking charters. Still, the guys who are well known are often booked in advance anyway. ( some even charge more for the same trips and get it)

I think there are 2 sides and there are 2 types of fishermen. I get the complaint and I agree with some of it. But I see the other side too. Same thing as me trying to pay rent and compete with a guy selling from his basement. Only difference is service. The tackle shops are open everyday, while the internet shops are not always available. Only time will tell.....
Rarely do you see people who drink to the point of where they would make you or your family uncomfortable on an open boat. Usually the guys who spends the extra money for a better fishing experience are there to do just that fish and I have probably fished on open boats 200 times. Obviously there are times when there are exceptions, but rarely.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:46 PM
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I honestly don't have 5 friends who like to fish, I like the flexibility of these open boat trips, though I can see how they could be inconvenient from a logistics point of view.
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Old 05-01-2014, 04:56 PM
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We fish open all the time. We are a FULL time fishing boat - this is our only occupation. Please feel free to call 24/7 for any charter or open boat needs - we always have time for our current and future customers. Many of our regular charters started with guys that met and became friends on open boat trips we've run. If you don't want to run open boat trips feel free not to but we will
You also carry way more than six people .This is directed at six pack charters same as Down Deep he carries more. By the way I just booked 8 charters since yesterday.Everyone can run there business the way they want. There is no need to get nasty as I could give two shits what "Joey Da Fish Says''. As far as Chad- I am not in Florida I am here and alive.Now I think this post has gone far enough and can you please lock it or take it down Jerry?
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