This has to be said.

[Flukemeister1]

Originally Posted by makosnax

I will be right back, going to make some popcorn.

Now that is FUNNY!!!

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by M Rod

I think the point that sal is trying to make is that open boat trips create a trend that ultimately short changes the charter boat business. Why would someone go through the trouble of putting together a charter when it is so easy to get on an open boat trip. In most cases you get the same service for less cost and us fisherman don't care cause as long as we wet a line were happy. The captain has to deal with uncertainty in his income and the inability to project future income if this trend becomes the norm. I think all he's saying is the open boat forum should be for us fisherman to communicate with each other to fill charters rather than the captain do all the work. In his eyes this is a trend that in the long run isn't beneficial to the charter business. Sometimes statements are taken out of context or perceived the wrong way. I also understand the situation is a bit of a double edged sword because staying tied to the dock isn't beneficial either. And also to be clear I've never met the man or fished with him but I do see what he's saying from a business stand point.

You said it better than me.This is exactly what I meant.

[JerseyCoast]

I understand & respect both sides to this argument. Unfortunately, its a sign of the times. Just like the internet has changed the way fishermen buy their tackle! Its not favorable for the actual business who does it full time, but its the way things are going these days and we need to adapt or die.

2 Sides to this:
1- The "charter boat" can offer you a date in stone, while the open boat may not. You know that you are fishing with family & friends, no chance of the trip turning ugly with a stranger who may not see things the way you do. Last thing I want is a stranger getting drunk when my kids are on a trip. I will never take them on an open trip.

2- The way the conditions always change, its nice to know that you can make a call and get fishing in a day or two. This is a big plus in the eyes of a fisherman. ( plus it puts most of the work on the captain, not yourself)

The internet has changed this industry big time! Al you need today is to post photos and your booking charters. Still, the guys who are well known are often booked in advance anyway. ( some even charge more for the same trips and get it)

I think there are 2 sides and there are 2 types of fishermen. I get the complaint and I agree with some of it. But I see the other side too. Same thing as me trying to pay rent and compete with a guy selling from his basement. Only difference is service. The tackle shops are open everyday, while the internet shops are not always available. Only time will tell.....

[sportfishingusa]

Simple math question for all parties in question...

Would you rather do 100 trips at 1400 a day, or 200 trips at 700 a day? hahahahahah

[Capt Ray Mad Gaffer]

We fish open all the time. We are a FULL time fishing boat - this is our only occupation. Please feel free to call 24/7 for any charter or open boat needs - we always have time for our current and future customers. Many of our regular charters started with guys that met and became friends on open boat trips we've run. If you don't want to run open boat trips feel free not to but we will

[bulletbob]

I must say that there is an awful lot of disrespect, nastiness, and uncalled for names and personal attacks toward Capt, Sal on this thread,,, He's been in the business for years, and is a prolific contributor on these pages, and always shares his expertise freely here.. His opinion on this matter is valid, even if unpopular.. Some of you guys should dig yourselves a bit, and consider being more respectful..... bob

[sportfishingusa]

no one answered my math problem yet... Anyone willing to give it a try? please provide an explanation to your answer as well hahahah

[Ryelof]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

I must say that there is an awful lot of disrespect, nastiness, and uncalled for names and personal attacks toward Capt, Sal on this thread,,, He's been in the business for years, and is a prolific contributor on these pages, and always shares his expertise freely here.. His opinion on this matter is valid, even if unpopular.. Some of you guys should dig yourselves a bit, and consider being more respectful..... bob

+1

capt. sal, I give it to you, world record response on a post. never to be duplicated. wish you the best, me, 37 yrs. , roll with the punches. IT DONT MEAN NOTHING! best, capt. jim

[M Rod]

Originally Posted by sportfishingusa

no one answered my math problem yet... Anyone willing to give it a try? please provide an explanation to your answer as well hahahah

You didn't ask a math problem. You asked one's preference between the two.