Regulatigons

[Ttmako]

Was just cleaning out the basement and came across a copy of the 2007 NJ recreational minimum size placard.
I found it interesting to compare the regulations from a mere 10 years ago to what we have today.
Seriously, what have the regulations accomplished? In my opinion, they have done nothing. Today we have less fish and for some species (BSB) shifting open seasons.
Fluke regulations have gone from 8 fish at 17" to todays limit of 5@18". I would be super happy to have my 8@ 17". Now I catch 25 17" fish, throw them back and I bet 8 of those are going to die. So the regulations haven't really helped.

Blackfish were 8 fish at 14". Today its 6@ 15". Shifting seasons and possession limits make this fishery a PIA to abide by the regulations.

Black sea bass. in 2007 Recreational guys were allowed to keep 25 @12" with no closed season. Today with a great, healthy and robust fishery we have shifting dates with more stringent possession limits. Look at todays regulations, its too long for me to type them in.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out we are being royally screwed by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

We are on a very slippery slope and I fear the regulations will get worse.
I urge you to pay attention, attend the fisheries meetings, donate to the RFA.

NMFS is the agency responsible for federal regulation and scientific research. They are a divisional within National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) which falls under the responsibility of the Department of Commerce. In other words, it's our Federal government at work. Like any other government agency, it's all about power and control. Our public resources are slowly being taken from us. It won't be long before the salt water registry becomes a salt water license, just a matter of time. NMFS controls and will continue to make quota decisions based on politics and revenue generation. Won't be long before quotas are allocated to the highest bidders if it's not already happening. Recreational anglers will continue getting screwed to subsidize a process which will favor commercial interests and foreign trade arrangements. It's the way government works, it's no different when it comes to fisheries management. Regulations will not only get worse they will also cost more until basically anyone involved in the recreational fishing business is out of business. Don't have to be a Rhodes Scholar to see how this is going to play out.

[Gerry Zagorski]

It's plain and simple... You pass laws to manage fisheries and pay people to do it, you form a financial ecosystem that feeds on itself. If everyone wants to keep their jobs, all the fisheries have to be in trouble or there is nothing for them to manage.

Our government is a law making money machine that wants to control everything...

OK... I feel better now

[SNAPS]

Originally Posted by dakota560

NMFS is the agency responsible for federal regulation and scientific research. They are a divisional within National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) which falls under the responsibility of the Department of Commerce. In other words, it's our Federal government at work. Like any other government agency, it's all about power and control. Our public resources are slowly being taken from us. It won't be long before the salt water registry becomes a salt water license, just a matter of time. NMFS controls and will continue to make quota decisions based on politics and revenue generation. Won't be long before quotas are allocated to the highest bidders if it's not already happening. Recreational anglers will continue getting screwed to subsidize a process which will favor commercial interests and foreign trade arrangements. It's the way government works, it's no different when it comes to fisheries management. Regulations will not only get worse they will also cost more until basically anyone involved in the recreational fishing business is out of business. Don't have to be a Rhodes Scholar to see how this is going to play out.

Wow the best summarization i have ever seen, you sir have hit the nail squarley on the head.

[Delawareriver]

Originally Posted by Ttmako

Was just cleaning out the basement and came across a copy of the 2007 NJ recreational minimum size placard.
I found it interesting to compare the regulations from a mere 10 years ago to what we have today.
Seriously, what have the regulations accomplished? In my opinion, they have done nothing. Today we have less fish and for some species (BSB) shifting open seasons.
Fluke regulations have gone from 8 fish at 17" to todays limit of 5@18". I would be super happy to have my 8@ 17". Now I catch 25 17" fish, throw them back and I bet 8 of those are going to die. So the regulations haven't really helped.

Blackfish were 8 fish at 14". Today its 6@ 15". Shifting seasons and possession limits make this fishery a PIA to abide by the regulations.

Black sea bass. in 2007 Recreational guys were allowed to keep 25 @12" with no closed season. Today with a great, healthy and robust fishery we have shifting dates with more stringent possession limits. Look at todays regulations, its too long for me to type them in.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out we are being royally screwed by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

We are on a very slippery slope and I fear the regulations will get worse.
I urge you to pay attention, attend the fisheries meetings, donate to the RFA.

I do agree with what Dakota said. Hit the nail on the head for sure but I wouldn't say the regulations have done nothing. He'll I remember down the delaware when the regulations were like 10 fluke at 15" we were happy when we caught one or two keepers and think our best day ever was 4 keepers. As the size limit increased so did the size of the fish and we eventually started catching more and more keepers. You said it your self this year you can go out and catch 17" fluke all day and Ive seen the same pattern. Yes it sucks releasing a 17" fish but that does mean there is more larger fish than ever before.

As far as blackfish, I don't understand what's so hard about looking up a few dates. Most guys only target them after the season opens up for the most fish anyways.

I will agree I don't understand the sea bass regulations as anytime we have targeted them we never had a problem finding plenty of keepers. Very healthy fishery that I feel is not affected by fishing pressure as much as other species