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Old 02-05-2016, 11:47 AM
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Old 02-05-2016, 09:26 PM
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Old 02-05-2016, 09:48 PM
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Old 02-07-2016, 12:32 AM
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I copied the text from the site for ya

New Jersey is one step closer to becoming its own summer flounder management region.

The Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission unanimously approved an option Tuesday during their winter meetings in Virginia to allow for a New Jersey/Delaware Bay management region. It would pull the state out of its present management region which it shares with Connecticut and New York.
The New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council must now vote to adopt the measure. The council's next meeting is March 3.
The option will also allow for a 17-inch size limit, four fish bag limit and 128 day season for New Jersey fishermen fishing in Delaware Bay, according to a press release from the Jersey Coast Angler's Association.
Delaware Bay area fishermen in Fortescue said the smaller size limit will help them compete with neighboring Delaware where the size limit for summer flounder is 16 inches.
"Since Delaware has gone to the smaller size limit it has taken it's toll on our business. A good part of our customer base is from Philadelphia so they have that option of going over the bridge into Delaware or coming here," said Capt. Mike Rotham of the Bonanza II in Fortescue, Downe Township.

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Anglers throw support behind 17-inch fluke catch

Rotham is optimistic the smaller summer flounder size limit in Delaware Bay will help Fortescue's for-hire and tackle businesses retain customers instead of losing them across the bay.
"If we had a 17-inch size limit last year our keeper ratio would have been up and the way the economy is now, every single thing matters," he said.
New Jersey will also be allowed to continue its shore based enhanced fishing opportunity to keep two fluke, at 16-inches or greater at Island Beach State Park, according to the JCAA.
The New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council has implemented this regulation at IBSP the last two years. They will need to renew the program in 2016.
So, essentially, New Jersey could have three different size and bag limits for summer flounder this year: the four-fish, 17-inch fish in Delaware Bay, the two-fish, 16-inch fish at Island Beach State Park, and the five-fish, 18-inch fish for all remaining waters, including the ocean.
The new regional management option would not have any baring on the total coastwide recreational harvest limit. The recreational sector will be allotted 5.42 million pounds this year, which will be shared between the several Atlantic Coast states with summer flounder fisheries.
The news wasn't as good for black sea bass, where recreational anglers and industry members are calling on New Jersey to not comply with management measures that are seeking drastic cuts to the fishery harvest this year.
The ASMFC is calling for a 23-percent reduction in the recreational harvest in 2016. However, it could be even more because they do not have the numbers for recreational landings in November and December until later this month.

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Sea bass measures have anglers calling for mutiny

Industry groups such as JCAA are explected to urge the New Jersey Marine Fisheries Council to rebel and refuse to set any regulations that are any more stringent than they were in 2015.
Congressman Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) called the reductions disappointing.
"New Jersey fisherman, and those all along the East Coast, deserve fair quotas based on sound science. As I have said before, there continues to be a serious lack of confidence in the data guiding these decisions," Pallone said in a prepared statement
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Old 02-07-2016, 02:21 PM
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Indeed, the APP stinks on the web too.

So for us guys not in Delaware Bay there is zero change to our season...right?
Alrighty then

Perhaps these bureaucrats can see to it that whatever they do with sea bass would they please for the love of everything holy make the fall season start the day after fluke season ends.
When the stripers aren't really going yet and fluke season ends having nothing but porgy sucks.
I'm not asking for MORE sea bass, I'm just asking that the sea bass we ARE given be in season immediately after fluke ends.
Adjustments could be made if we had any sort of flexibility.
If I'm not mistaken, typically at the end of fluke season (early Fall) sea bass is primarily an inshore fishery. Why not a "special" season inshore for a few weeks or a month where a smaller bag would be acceptable to anglers and captains not travelling many miles offshore. 10 fish? 8 fish? Throw in some porgy, maybe some puffer. Maybe some triggers. People will go for that.
Take the same quota that we have been deemed worthy of having and spread it out more judiciously to aid in the fishing economy.
In the winter when the big knuckleheads are offshore make it 15 again so it's worth the trip.
As they are now the season(s) for sea bass are ridiculous. A month during fluke season at 15 then July you get 2 until August, when you get zilch until October 22. Then you 15 for 2 1/2 months at 15 again. Then the door slams shut. Happy New Year.

Say, take that month during May and June when most boats are concentrating on fluke and reallocate 5 of those 15. Or maybe make it 8 and 7. Whatever kind of split so that we have a more viable fishery during that gap in the Fall between fluke and striped bass. All the while maintaining the exact quota for the year. Not a single fish more, not a single fish less but a more equitable deal for everyone who has skin in the game.

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Old 02-07-2016, 02:42 PM
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Indeed, the APP stinks on the web too.

So for us guys not in Delaware Bay there is zero change to our season...right?
Alrighty then

Perhaps these bureaucrats can see to it that whatever they do with sea bass would they please for the love of everything holy make the fall season start the day after fluke season ends.
When the stripers aren't really going yet and fluke season ends having nothing but porgy sucks.
I'm not asking for MORE sea bass, I'm just asking that the sea bass we ARE given be in season immediately after fluke ends.
Adjustments could be made if we had any sort of flexibility.
If I'm not mistaken, typically at the end of fluke season (early Fall) sea bass is primarily an inshore fishery. Why not a "special" season inshore for a few weeks or a month where a smaller bag would be acceptable to anglers and captains not travelling many miles offshore. 10 fish? 8 fish? Throw in some porgy, maybe some puffer. Maybe some triggers. People will go for that.
Take the same quota that we have been deemed worthy of having and spread it out more judiciously to aid in the fishing economy.
In the winter when the big knuckleheads are offshore make it 15 again so it's worth the trip.
As they are now the season(s) for sea bass are ridiculous. A month during fluke season at 15 then July you get 2 until August, when you get zilch until October 22. Then you 15 for 2 1/2 months at 15 again. Then the door slams shut. Happy New Year.

Say, take that month during May and June when most boats are concentrating on fluke and reallocate 5 of those 15. Or maybe make it 8 and 7. Whatever kind of split so that we have a more viable fishery during that gap in the Fall between fluke and striped bass. All the while maintaining the exact quota for the year. Not a single fish more, not a single fish less but a more equitable deal for everyone who has skin in the game.

My 2 cents.
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Three different sets of rules for one state. Another reduction in seabass.

Get the pirate flags out. I will keep what's sensible.
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Sea bass aside, I think this is a win for us... We make our own season and bag limit based on the quota we are assigned without having to compromise with other states and their preferences.

Decisions like this are always best when made at the state level... Now if we could get the feds out of our schools we'd be getting back to the sovereignty the constitution was supposed to afford individual states. The way it should be in my opinion.

Score one for us for a change.
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