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Old 11-15-2023, 11:17 PM
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They don’t work as well as a snell
Snelled as posted turns the hook to a better position.
Tie both ways abd drag it across the top of your hand .
The loop knot many times won’t turn correctly
Idk, my own tests have shown the opposite, loop knot really let's the circle hook rotate freely into position. Heard it from a few other guys too. We just had Chris Lido on the show from the Gambler and he's even more adamant about loop knots with circle hooks than I am.
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Old 11-16-2023, 01:37 AM
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Idk, my own tests have shown the opposite, loop knot really let's the circle hook rotate freely into position. Heard it from a few other guys too. We just had Chris Lido on the show from the Gambler and he's even more adamant about loop knots with circle hooks than I am.
Are you tying a loop knot , but going through the eye in a synch method ?
Or tying a real loop knot that allows free swinging .
As there is a huge difference in the two , while being the same knot .
One way works as a trigger , the second one does not turn the hook the same way .

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Old 11-16-2023, 08:11 AM
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Idk, my own tests have shown the opposite, loop knot really let's the circle hook rotate freely into position. Heard it from a few other guys too. We just had Chris Lido on the show from the Gambler and he's even more adamant about loop knots with circle hooks than I am.
Has anyone else tried the welded/solid ringed circles? I have had good results with the Mutu and perfect circle versions of these hooks. I haven't done the hand test on these as we used my whole stash on leader spools.
I have used Capt. Dan's Snell and loop technique for some time in other applications. It works with j hooks also.
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Old 11-16-2023, 11:33 AM
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Are you tying a loop knot , but going through the eye in a synch method ?
Or tying a real loop knot that allows free swinging .
As there is a huge difference in the two , while being the same knot .
One way works as a trigger , the second one does not turn the hook the same way .

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I'm talking about a loop knot like you have pictured on the right. Not threading it through
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Old 11-16-2023, 11:36 AM
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Chris Lido went into more detail about the loop knot for circle hooks on the podcast, I'll link it below, we just released it. He is definitely more adamant about it than me. I still snell my bent eye circles but I do loop knot my straight ones. He loop knots both.

https://youtu.be/TBbH7J7sJZM?si=zd7dXQ2W_HuxoUM6
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Old 11-17-2023, 05:28 PM
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Chris Lido went into more detail about the loop knot for circle hooks on the podcast, I'll link it below, we just released it. He is definitely more adamant about it than me. I still snell my bent eye circles but I do loop knot my straight ones. He loop knots both.

https://youtu.be/TBbH7J7sJZM?si=zd7dXQ2W_HuxoUM6
Guess will have to agree to disagree .
Have used many different methods with circles also for a few decades .
IMO snelled with a trigger works better .
Snelled incorrectly , might as well use rubber hooks .


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Old 11-18-2023, 05:25 PM
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Guess will have to agree to disagree .
Have used many different methods with circles also for a few decades .
IMO snelled with a trigger works better .
Snelled incorrectly , might as well use rubber hooks .


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You've tried loop knot on circle hooks and not done well hooking up?
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You've tried loop knot on circle hooks and not done well hooking up?
It works , but IMO not as well as a snelled trigger .
The loop or snell debate is far from a new one .

For every good fisherman who talks about loops being the best way , you will find five more who like using a snell .

Much probably depends on all the rest of the variables .
Locked down , free spool engaging the reel .
Bowing to the fish , reeling down on the fish .
In a rod holder or in hand .

Rod , and line type etc .
For set ups we use on the boat , very few fish are missed or lost using a snelled circle .

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It works , but IMO not as well as a snelled trigger .
The loop or snell debate is far from a new one .

For every good fisherman who talks about loops being the best way , you will find five more who like using a snell .

Much probably depends on all the rest of the variables .
Locked down , free spool engaging the reel .
Bowing to the fish , reeling down on the fish .
In a rod holder or in hand .

Rod , and line type etc .
For set ups we use on the boat , very few fish are missed or lost using a snelled circle .

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Are you using straight or offset circles Dan?
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Old 11-19-2023, 01:29 PM
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Are you using straight or offset circles Dan?
Can only use inline for stripers .

If you actually meant bent eye or straight eye , I use both .
I prefer the straight eye .

That’s what we also use for tuna and tiles , and mahi

I also use circles for a bunch of freshwater fish. .
Being lighter wire they are normally bent eye .


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