AHMM Ramp F&G in the house Sunday 7/25

[Jigman13]

Its unfortunate you feel that way BB. If you saw what was going on during the spring striper run from the back bay beaches and shorelines you would've been pleading for more fish and game patrols and checks.

Guys walking off the beach with buckets and coolers full of short bass, hiding them in the sand a few feet from where they were fishing, etc. I saw one guy get popped. Prob couldve gotten 100 if they had the staff...every nite... for at least 4 weeks...in just one single area by the Amboys.

I welcome it when I get checked. I also call in poachers. If I see it I'm making the call. They offer rewards for it but I forego them as seeing someone get a coupon and their gear taken away is far more rewarding.

[Gumada]

If they observe a violation, I am, by all means ok with it. However, a policeman cannot pull you over just to check if you have done anything illegal ! Stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional.....

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by Gumada

If they observe a violation, I am, by all means ok with it. However, a policeman cannot pull you over just to check if you have done anything illegal ! Stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional.....

agreed... Poachers? Taking dozens of illegal fish?-throw the book at them.. No problem here.

Yet catch say a fat 17 and 3/4 inch fluke, deeply hooked, and bleeding profusely and decide you don't want to waste it, and you are lumped in with the creeps that catch 30 undersized stripers and keep them all.. I dunno, somehow it doesn't add up.

NJ has a LOT of problems, and yes poachers abound,I realize that.. However, surveillance of the law abiding innocent majority to keep "order" is the playbook of despotic, totalitarian governments, and has NO place in the USA, yet it is becoming commonplace, and sadly,desired and applauded...

Brave new world has been here for a while, and has been embraced.
I am now an older man, actually what many would call an old man I guess, and cannot understand the modern mindset of security/stability at the cost of personal freedom/ individual rights , but many today are willing to make that trade. We wanted this, and we got it... enjoy...

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

I hate to be the only right wing wing nut on this outdoorsmans site, but they are minions of the state,just more oppression in a world where its becoming more common, and more welcomed every day.

Another statement that is ridiculous!!!!

[shrimpman steve]

It’s the rule makers not the guys and gals enforcing the rules. They are just doing their job.

I’m sure that most of us feel that way.

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by shrimpman steve

It’s the rule makers not the guys and gals enforcing the rules. They are just doing their job.

I’m sure that most of us feel that way.

Understood, but if you believe the Bible [I do] one day all those that oppressed, tortured, killed others because "it was their job" will stand before their Creator and give account..
I would not want my defense on that Day to be "I was just doing my job".

"I was only doing my job" is a phrase thats been used for a very long time by those that limit/take away personal liberties...
Again, personal liberty and freedom has been sacrificed on the alter of security/safety/fairness/social justice.. I am not ok with it, but I have been outvoted by my fellow citizens.
As a society we have accepted state surveillance and intrusion as fair play in order to maintain law and order in all its forms, right down to fish/game regulations.
Not much I can do about it, but for the time being I am allowed to voice my opinion which I realize is contrary to the opinion of the masses ... bob

[Skolmann]

Originally Posted by Duffman

Holy **** you just have no clue what goes on here on the bayshore day in day out.

Yes I welcome it. The checks, the stops. My lord, spend a weekend here and you’ll understand. I’ll bow out of this convo now. I’ve said enuff

Agree with you 100% 👍

[Skolmann]

Absolutely no problem with being checked.

Can’t tell you how many short fluke (not gut hooked or 1/8” short) that I have seen being kept while fishing the wall at Manasquan Inlet or how many not even close to being legal blackfish I’ve seen in coolers/buckets along the Pt. Pleasant canal or the south jetty at Barnegat Inlet.

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

Understood, but if you believe the Bible [I do] one day all those that oppressed, tortured, killed others because "it was their job" will stand before their Creator and give account..
I would not want my defense on that Day to be "I was just doing my job".

"I was only doing my job" is a phrase thats been used for a very long time by those that limit/take away personal liberties...
Again, personal liberty and freedom has been sacrificed on the alter of security/safety/fairness/social justice.. I am not ok with it, but I have been outvoted by my fellow citizens.
As a society we have accepted state surveillance and intrusion as fair play in order to maintain law and order in all its forms, right down to fish/game regulations.
Not much I can do about it, but for the time being I am allowed to voice my opinion which I realize is contrary to the opinion of the masses ... bob

With out Fish and Game and rules and regulations there would be nothing to catch! If you don't break the law you have nothing to worry about! The Bible and the rest of your thoughts don't belong on a fishing site! FYI I believe in God but this is not the place for it!

[Capt. Debbie]

AGREE 100%

Other agendas do not belong on and do ruin any site. Take a knee... LOL

Originally Posted by Capt Sal

With out Fish and Game and rules and regulations there would be nothing to catch! If you don't break the law you have nothing to worry about! The Bible and the rest of your thoughts don't belong on a fishing site! FYI I believe in God but this is not the place for it!