looking for party boat out of brooklyn

[HUTCH #1]

Any recommendations for fluke/sea bass party boat in Brooklyn/sheepshead bay area?

[capt74]

Maybe next year. Season is closed.

[torchee]

Fluke closes 9/21 in ny

[torchee]

Sea bass is 8 fish now in ny
Is it correct to say jersey would be open if we chose bigger size limit?

[frugalfisherman]

Google party boats Sheepshead bay. I think the Captain Dave is the old steel JAMAICA2. This sounds like a good idea if you want to pay tolls to fish legal.

[frugalfisherman]

captdaveonline.com. Fishing 9-4 next week for fluke and 9-4 the week after for sea bass. Sounds great except for the drive and the traffic.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by torchee

Sea bass is 8 fish now in ny
Is it correct to say jersey would be open if we chose bigger size limit?

Seems it doesn't matter what the season is or what the size limits are, every year we exceed our quota. Sea Bass stock are reported to be rebuilt and over the SSB ( Spawning Stock Biomass) yet we still have restrictive measures in place and our season opens and closes like a broken screen door in the wind

Here's an email I was copied on that Nick Cicero sent to Corey Booker about our current situation and asking them for help... It does a great job explaining where we are at with Sea Bass....

Dear Senator Booker

Some weeks ago I visited your Washington DC and met with Ariana Spawn to brief her on the Sea Bass situation here in New Jersey and why we needed a short emergency season to help keep the doors open on New Jerseys vibrant recreational fishing business . As a follow up I sent the letter below . Note that this is the second time I have forwarded the letter to your office.

The first time was over 3 weeks ago when I thought that we had enough time for you to help us in gaining an emergency accommodation from NMFS that might allow New Jersey Fishermen to access a small quota of abundant Black Sea Bass now that the Summer Flounder season has ended .

To date I have not received any confirmation from your offices on my request or the content of my letter .

Black Sea Bass is the poster child of regulatory backwardness and is a prime example of a complete lapse in our governments regulatory timeliness! Until just recently , the Black Sea Bass population has been commonly recognized by everyone with any on the water experience [ except the National Marine Fisheries Service ] as biomass growing in unprecedented numbers and moving northward in its’ range. Recreational anglers in both the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast - especially in New England - started to more frequently target black sea bass because the previously popular cod fishery was at an all-time low. And yes, admittedly, black sea bass harvests have grown most significantly during the years between the last and most recent stock assessments .

Simply put ….it’s because they are there and fishermen tend to catch the most abundant and available species!

Yet, it took almost eight years for NMFS to recognize and confirm what fishermen had been reporting and they now document that this fishery is currently over 130 % above their scientifically unsubstantiated and utopian population goal that had been set as a recovery benchmark many years before.

Note… that during all that time, when the NMFS numbers and corresponding bag limits and seasons were completely punitive , anglers were burdened with unreasonably restrictive regulations and shortened seasons based on inaccurate science. And this past year, after concluding that the population was in fact much higher than they previously recognized, the same anglers were rewarded with shorter seasons and smaller bag limits because questionable government catch surveys indicated that the recreational community caught too many in the previous year!

To add insult to injury, no attempt was ever made to pro rate and to reward the fishermen for all those years that the recreational community lived with limits and seasons that could have been, and should have been, much more liberal! Simple logic would dictate that the 130 % stock level wasn’t reached in one year, but in fact ,was based on years of significant population increases.

I’m asking for your help to convince the NMFS that they can allow more liberal seasons and bags limits on Black Sea Bass with NO adverse harm to the biomass . Most importantly, this will greatly help the costal businesses and their recreational angling patrons here in New Jersey who will very shortly be facing weeks with no reasonable fishing opportunities, or reason to fish.

NMFS needs to allow a small emergency allocation of Sea Bass between the time when the summer flounder season ends (Sept. 5, 2017) and the fall Black Sea Bass season begins (Oct. 22, 2017).

Recreational angling groups have been lobbying NMFS for a small interim quota that would allow anglers a Sea Bass bag limit during the time period that is currently slated to be a closed season.

Government agencies need to be responsible for both the health and sustainability of our natural resources as well as the livelihoods of those of us who earn a living based on accessibility to those public resources.

Moreover, federal laws pertaining to and dictating how recreational fisheries are managed need to be amended to take into consideration the limitations and timeliness of the recreational data collection programs and their inability to be used for the fair and equitable enforcement of annual catch limits on our sector.

Regulations need to not only support marine biomass health but, as in this case , when a population has recovered to an historical all-time record , regulators must consider and reward the sacrifices made by recreational anglers and fishing related businesses!

Without a NJ season on Sea Bass the New Jersey recreational fishing fleet is now tied to the dock, the businesses that support the fleet have little reason to open their doors and my sales staff has even less of a reason to call on those retail establishments. All told this is a loosing proposition in New Jersey that could have been averted had bipartisan pressure been applied.

Senator we need your help and leadership in this matter !

[Fisherman120]

Ocean Eagle flukes on tuesdays and thursdays. Highly recommend them- serious fishing boat.

[barbarian]

Does anyone know if RSA permits being sold/issued for ny or jersey waters?