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Old 05-14-2015, 06:08 AM
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The only way to turn the tide of eventual total elimination of recreational fishing is to organize and lobby! The perfect example of this is the NRA. This is what has to be done. Anything else will fall short!
Have you never heard of the RFA?
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:04 PM
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What are the regs on blueline currently for NJ? Is it 7 per man per trip right now or is that not in effect yet?
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:06 PM
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The RFA does not have 1% of the resources of the NRA. You have to pay to play.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:57 PM
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The RFA does not have 1% of the resources of the NRA. You have to pay to play.
Maybe we all need to put up or............you all know the rest.
Apparently our phone calls and occasional e-mails to legislators need more ooomph.
I'm an NRA member. Thinking about joining RFA as well. Am I wasting my money ??
Maybe our heirs will get some benefit. http://joinrfa.org/

Tight lines all.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:04 PM
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The RFA does not have 1% of the resources of the NRA. You have to pay to play.
Kirk, you are an avid angler and I know from reading your posts you respect the sport. I also get your intention. Having said that the NRA has ONE and ONLY one Agenda. Anything that has the word Gun in it gets support whereas with Fishing regulation, some are on board with fighting (donation wise) ONLY Stripers while others favor ONLY Fluke while others favor ONLY Seabass
or some favor 2 out of the 3 While still others believe because the RFA is NOT NRA that nothing can be done so they do NOTHING at all. Then factor in that there are other fishing rights groups that some support rather than support ALL fishing groups which creates more separation and less "pay to play" so comparing NRA to RFA is not really a true comparison. Anyway you get my point. There really is NO reason given the amount of fisherman nation wide that the RFA couldn't compete lobbywise with the NRA except for the fishermen themselves while constantly informed stay on the sidelines

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NRA spends approx 3 to 3.5 million in lobbying wheras the RFA spends between 70 to 250 thousand lobbying depending on issue and year so its more like RFA has between 2% to 7% of NRA spending not less than 1% but still a significant number. RFA has the lobby capability just NOT the support of its fishing community like NRA has from gun community. Just wish fishermen would realize that and give us a fight we could win
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:08 PM
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Thanks for that input Dale. I will join RFA tonite.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:46 PM
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Thanks for that input Dale. I will join RFA tonite.
Thanks Tom it all helps! starts with one becomes a few then can become a movement
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:31 AM
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NRA spends approx 3 to 3.5 million in lobbying wheras the RFA spends between 70 to 250 thousand lobbying depending on issue and year so its more like RFA has between 2% to 7% of NRA spending not less than 1% but still a significant number. RFA has the lobby capability just NOT the support of its fishing community like NRA has from gun community. Just wish fishermen would realize that and give us a fight we could win
NRA has more resources than just lobbying money. Their 501C spends more than $25 million per election cycle supporting 60-80 candidates. They spend $1 million a year in direct campaign contributions. The individual members spend several million per year in campaign contributions. They have a TV show and a magazine. Practically everyone knows them and very few people outside fishing have heard of the RFA. So very conservatively they are spending $19 million per year to push their agenda.
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:35 AM
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what ever happened to "by the people,for the people".we openly admit that we have to "pay" to have fair laws.is it me or dose something sound wrong here?.we have to pay to have our political leaders go out and get the fisheries
people{who we pay thru taxes}to go out and do there job so that they can come back with data that is 10 years old.we vote,we march,we make phone calls and we send emails and nothing works but money that always works.
very sad,very very sad
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:10 PM
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If anyone thinks the Recreational Fishing Alliance is in the same league as the National Rifle Association you are sadly mistaken. We have no Charlton Heston's behind us although I wish we did. As far as the money spent in comparison I would strongly suggest you have the facts and figures before posting. The fact is people that do not live in a coastal state could give two cents about recreational salt water fishing. People in every state care about the right to bear arms!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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