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Old 01-14-2014, 11:40 AM
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Russ A says - "Just an FYI I have been around for a long time and have heard a lot of things"

NOW HEAR THIS ---

Well Russ, you're not the only one. I too have lived in the pathetic state of New York. I attended N.Y. Blackfish regulation meetings. I attended with a shirt with a picture of Tog. One of the council members at the meeting asks, " nice shirt, what kind of fish is that?". What happened to New York, New York did to itself. The deck is stacked is against all of us, buddy. I totally agree, roller gear is horrible. So before you start b!tch!n, leave New York now, before you wear out your welcome here.

P.S. Thanks Paul
Who is the Tog Biologist for NY? You know since you go to meetings. I know the person and had extensive conversations while fishing.

I won't wear my welcome anywhere, I am trying to show you that fighting against each other and the isolationist bit only hurts the fishing industry it doesn't help it.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:48 PM
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Russ - I give you credit for stating your case and not getting personal or confrentational about it. Easy to get that way since this can be such an emotionally charged subject, especially when the sport we all love and some of us rely on for our livelyhood is at risk.

Having said that, I respect your opinion but am sticking to my guns and will rally around what is best for us locally here in NJ. Our NJ fishing recreational community has endured a lot recently and many businesses are tetering on the edge. Cost of fuel, the local economy and then last year Sandy. You can argue that it's short sided or selfish but that's where I stand. I want our local regs to be as favorable as possible and regionalzing the managment of a fishery does not serve that end.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:40 PM
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Russ - I give you credit for stating your case and not getting personal or confrentational about it. Easy to get that way since this can be such an emotionally charged subject, especially when the sport we all love and some of us rely on for our livelyhood is at risk.

Having said that, I respect your opinion but am sticking to my guns and will rally around what is best for us locally here in NJ. Our NJ fishing recreational community has endured a lot recently and many businesses are tetering on the edge. Cost of fuel, the local economy and then last year Sandy. You can argue that it's short sided or selfish but that's where I stand. I want our local regs to be as favorable as possible and regionalzing the managment of a fishery does not serve that end.
Thanks Gerry, I have learned that calling people names or ridiculing them or just plainly attacking them does not do anything for me as a person nor my credibility and it's just wrong.

I understand that you are adamant about sticking to your guns, just don't fight with your eyes closed. They will screw NJ just like NY was screwed.

Just an FYI I fish both states so I want to see a more liberal possession amd size limit for both states.

I feel since we both fish the same waters we should band together to get these monkeys called the MAFMC, NMFS, NOAA and the like off our backs.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:44 PM
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Thanks Gerry, I have learned that calling people names or ridiculing them or just plainly attacking them does not do anything for me as a person nor my credibility and it's just wrong.

I understand that you are adamant about sticking to your guns, just don't fight with your eyes closed. They will screw NJ just like NY was screwed.

Just an FYI I fish both states so I want to see a more liberal possession amd size limit for both states.

I feel since we both fish the same waters we should band together to get these monkeys called the MAFMC, NMFS, NOAA and the like off our backs.


Just wanted to ask this question. What about the guys in south jersey that fish both nj and del waters. Del has a 16 in fluke fish. Is it fair to them?

I guess maybe NJ should be grouped with the southern states.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:22 PM
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Just wanted to ask this question. What about the guys in south jersey that fish both nj and del waters. Del has a 16 in fluke fish. Is it fair to them?

I guess maybe NJ should be grouped with the southern states.
In Delaware it's 17" and creel of 4.
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