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Fishfish · #1 03-12-2013, 01:25 PM

FYI Toms River - Restrictions of beach access begin
At tonight's Toms River Council meeting, a consent agenda resolution will most likely be approved to restrict four wheel drive vehicles from Ortley, Chadwick, Ocean Beach and all beaches of Toms River township. While many would agree good reason for the "temporary" restriction due to the destruction of Sandy, will this become another "once something is taken away from fishermen will it be returned" senario?

M. RESOLUTION of the Township Council of the Township of Toms River, Ocean County, New Jersey, temporarily suspending the issuance of permits for the operation of four-wheel drive vehicles on Township beaches through December 31, 2013 due to damage caused by Superstorm Sandy.
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HDMarc · #2 03-12-2013, 03:06 PM

Hey Dennis, you gonna go and give em' hell tonight? Hope to see you on the Mimi next month.

Reel Class · #3 03-12-2013, 04:13 PM

you knew this was coming...

NJBBA I'm sure has a sniff of this one!

sportfishingusa · #4 03-12-2013, 04:35 PM

have you seen that area yet? mass destruction is on every block and every corner, people lost their homes, their businesses, and their lives over there, i pass it 25 times a week, i fished the beach for a while and i can honestly say that no one has any reason to be on those beaches...

I will say that your typical 9-5 clean up is not working, i pass by at 530-6pm and everyone is already gone for the day which is sad.

I understand everyones frustrations but i live in toms river, and i feel no one should be allowed on the beaches for a while.

HDMarc · #5 03-12-2013, 04:46 PM

Sportfishing, I couldn't agree with you more about nobody having access to the beaches while they're still contaminated with all the debris from the storm. I live on the water in Brick and our area got hit real hard too. The point that I believe Dennis is trying to make is that the people restricting beach access while things are on the mend don't make the beaches off limits to us once everything is back to normal.

tropics · #6 03-12-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sportfishingusa

have you seen that area yet? mass destruction is on every block and every corner, people lost their homes, their businesses, and their lives over there, i pass it 25 times a week, i fished the beach for a while and i can honestly say that no one has any reason to be on those beaches...

I will say that your typical 9-5 clean up is not working, i pass by at 530-6pm and everyone is already gone for the day which is sad.

I understand everyones frustrations but i live in toms river, and i feel no one should be allowed on the beaches for a while.

I agree with on this the beaches need to be rebuilt. Keeping 4 wheelers off will definitely have an impact on the fisher men but it will keep the guys off that love to play in the sand and dunes with their 4x4s
I also have family in Toms River

sportfishingusa · #7 03-12-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HDMarc

Sportfishing, I couldn't agree with you more about nobody having access to the beaches while they're still contaminated with all the debris from the storm. I live on the water in Brick and our area got hit real hard too. The point that I believe Dennis is trying to make is that the people restricting beach access while things are on the mend don't make the beaches off limits to us once everything is back to normal.

I competely understand the concern, i dont think that is going to happen tho, they generate a few bucks during the winter that helps them when no one is buying the over prices beach badges. lol

Reel Class · #8 03-12-2013, 05:06 PM

the entire dune system needs to be rebuilt before the beach is completely replenished...

3rd Ave in Ortley we have a 50' MOUNTAIN of sand Fiore put in there and it needs to be leveled and distributed south on the beach..

Lavallette's beach is in better shape, but there's no dune. They are about half way done with their boardwalk (Ortley ave down to Philly ave) but they are going to have to replenish the dune.

Up in the Ocean Beach - Normandy area a lot of work needs to be done, especially on the brick-toms river border where utter destruction took place.

I can't see the beach in Ortley being opened south of 6th ave all summer - that entire neighborhood is gone S of the surf club - it's still ugly and demolitions are occuring there daily. Overnight they are lighting up the areas along the beach on 2nd and 3d ave (In ortley) but we've only seen people working there during the daytime. They alos started working on the Lord House (life guard house in Ortley) but it looks like they stopped - pilings are in place but no further progress has taken place.

I really hope when things settle and get back to "normal" they allow the buggies on the beach. It sucks having to pay big coin to drive on on island beach!!!

Fishfish · #9 03-13-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HDMarc

Hey Dennis, you gonna go and give em' hell tonight? Hope to see you on the Mimi next month.

Hi! Can't wait to get back out on the Mimi! I did, but didn't give them hell last night - they are already in it. They did approve the resolution to not grant 4x4 access permits. They sighted dune construction, access cut throughs, other safety issues and the design of the dunes. ACOE planned 22' high and 200 feet deep dunes which with slopes, would not allow for a size able and level plane for a vehicle to navigate. While I did agree for now (the spring season) due to clean ups and repair to accept the merit of this decision, I did argue that these safety issues would also apply to beach goers and access areas with the cut throughs. Harding avenue and the 4x4 ramp in Ortley was a site of breach during the storm. Of course they dont want to give up beach badge revenues and I also agree, especially when revenues will be so important to fill the hole with the 20% loss of our tax base. One of my problems last night in comment to the Council was the exclusion of a specific user group, us 4 wheelers. Instead of accepting the intent of my comments and reasoning, the Council President decided to use the opportunity to make it sound like, and pit the Ortley beach home owners against me, in that my fishing was more important than the restoration of the dunes and the protection of the Ortley residents homes. Rather disgraceful and shameful political spin/bullshit. They, the Council, dont like me much - oh well. A member of the NJ Beach Buggy Association (I dont remember his name -sorry) also commented and asked the council to consider permits for the fall season. We will see?
Something I forgot to mention. This issue gets some interest on this site, while almost no response another site. Cant figure out why? This has much more implications than just 4x4 beach access in Toms River. This is an example of the complexity and severity of, and the eventual loss of our fishing rights!