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I guess 15 giant Cbass are not enough for some guys, just read that fishermen coming off a partyboat got busted for keeping too many Cbass, only ONE fisherman was not fined!!! The boat was not busted, the fishermen were. I know that the Voyager (not the boat involved) made it clear that you could face the music if you did not adhere to the limits.

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Voyager tells their fares more then once 15 is the limit, mates will not fillet any more then 15 and that you're on your own if you decide to keep more than your limit. To the guys who kept more then there limit, good going your quite the sportsman:mad:

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These limits suck !! Instead of calling out people, write letters. Some one woke up one morning and came up with the number 15. 25 was a good number if you ask me. Alot of people shyed away this year paying 170 bux for 15 sea bass, party boats got hurt. People were limiting out by 9am, some SHORTAGE of sea bass I guess. Why we sit here and worry about what THE OTHER GUY doing we will never win. Divided we fall. Get on the band wagon, get names, post an address where we can write to, copy and paste the lettter you wrote to NMFS about the SHORTAGE of bass and how screwed up these numbers are.

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Saw the same thing.. God damn Pirates! Im sure they had there limit of Sea bass and Porgys and they needed to keep over the limit.. Hmmm.. At least there was one trooper who kept his limit and that was it

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Like you need more than 30 fillets per trip. Plus porgies give me a break

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Where did you read this story?

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Completely agree with you Andy. I used to book a trip almost every week during winter sea bass season. With a 15 fish limit, I choose not to go. By the time you pay for the trip, tip, tackle, etc....it's a $250 day. When you catch your limit in the first hour, what do you do after that? Play catch and release and pretend that those fish you just pulled out of 200 ft of water all live when you toss them back? Sit in the cabin for the next 5 hours? Or do you keep pulling and fill the cooler hoping the fish cops don't meet you at the dock?

Lots of people choose the last option. When you know the regulation in place is absurd and based on nothing, I don't blame them. After all, when you post your report you can still put "keeping only my legal limit" as if that statement means something..... If the sea bass stock was truly in trouble, that's a completely different story.

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Arat: I am by no means rich. I may do one or two trips per year. 170 bux is alot for some people. Who said 30 fillets. I've seen ripping currents where you could barely hold bottom with 24oz. Then factor in the weather. If I do a few trips I feel like 25 was a good number, besides, unless you have a tool to deflate these fish they just float away anyway. It seemed 25 was good for a long time, why the change, where is the data that says these fish are endangered. I would much rather see people keep 25 5 or 6 lb. seabass than 25 14 inch fish inshore.

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These guys are stupid idiots. Everybody knows if you're going to do this bring 2 coolers.

PS: AND DON'T WRITE YOUR FRIGGIN NAME ON THEM!

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People should be called out when caught poaching.It effects all of us by the light it casts on us.

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We are lucky we even got the season we did... Yes you might limit out in an hour.. but u can still target porgys, cod, pollock, ling, etc.. And yes we all know that the fish you bring up and throw back don't always make it back down and die.... Maybe more people should learn and use a venting tool.. I vented my fish on my last trip once i had my limit and i watched 99% of them swim back to down. I limited out in 45 mins.. then played catch and release along with helping some others out that were sick.. I picked up a few short of a limit of porgys as well.. It was a great trip..

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Where did you guys read this story??

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Was this on any sponsor boat ?

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Was reported on another site about the non-sponsor out of Barnegat Light.

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Did you read how the people that were on the boat are crying now because of the way they were treated.. HMMMM... you kept over your limit and now your mad because you are being treated like that pirate you are!!

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Shame on Charley!!

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Charlie wasn't guilty of anything, by the sound of it. When you have 15 in the box and choose to put more in, that's a personal choice. Charlie announces the limits at the beginning of each trip.

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Charlie had nothing to do with it.. think about it. 2 mates and a caption.. We can not watch everyone.. So when the pirates take more then there limit most of the time the crew did not even know.. Or they find out when its time to clean the fish and by then the damage is done.. Or the guys who keep them whole.. No one ever knows unless the F&G does what they do.. More power to them... I have never once complained about them boarding us or checking our fish when we get in.. It is there job and im glad that they do it!!

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The captain and boat are not responsible. The people that chose to keep more than their limits are responsible.

They took a calculated risk that did not pay off. Now they should pay up.

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I totally agree but for some reason this crap doesn't happen on the Voyager or Gambler!! Why is that?????

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These type of actions is why I choose not to go on the offshore seabass trips. In my opinion, there's really no way to stop these idiots from taking more than your legally allowed. Yes, I know and everybody else knows the seabass population is very healthy, but the law is the law. I really don't want to subject myself to being searched by the f&g. Not because I'm breaking the law, but because of the embarrasement of being on a boat with a few individuals who think of no one but themselves. In the long run, they are tarnishing the reputation of all the law abiding fishermen. It's another sad day for all.

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I too have been on a few of these trips over the years. I've seen guys bringing 98 qt. coolers on board and seen them filled to the top when they leave. We may not agree with the regulations, but that is no reason to break the law, and those that break the laws should be prosecuted to the fullest. Should we become outlaws because a few lawmakers don't know a thing about making game and fishing regulations. I for one will not and I have absolutely no respect for those that do. Regardless of the laws and regulations, we should only participate in activities that we can afford, and only take game or fish that we and our families will consume over a reasonable period of time. I am jumping off the soap box now guys.........

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We went on this boat last week. The creel limits are Posted in the cabin. He gave out the info on the hailer twice that SB was limited to 15 fish.

I don't blame the captain.

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Write someone else's name on it.:eek:

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Could someone PM the name of the board the original story was posted on as I would like to read it for myself.

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LAWS can be changed. 15 fish reduces most to become pirates. Beef at NMFS not the anglers. Wait till all your limits are reduced to nothing, that is what is going to happen in the end. Divided we fall.

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15 is too many if you ask me. Nobody will agree whith me but keeping more than that will just do the same thing that we did with cod macks and ling in the past year. wondering where they all went? we killed them off not the commercial guys. us. If we dont take care of seabass you can say bye bye to winter fishing.

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Here's my take.. these are DAMN BIG fish.. 3 4 and 5 pound sea bass, 1 2 3 pound porgies, big ling... How much fish does anyone really need?.. We are talking about 30 BIG pieces of fish here, just for the sea bass, not figuring other species like porgies, ling, blues etc that are taken on these trips.... Please don't think we can't hurt populations of these offshore fish.We can... Think about the thousands of these big fish caught every day out there on the offshore wrecks.. Lets say 40 guys get their limit..

Thats 600 big sea bass for one boat,one day.. If 5 boats from NY and NJ sail on a given day and all boats only take 40 guys, Thats 3,000 sea bass, in one day... Think about the 10's of thousands of fish taken off these wrecks in the 2 months season,, Those fish aren't concentrated everywhere. They are concentrated on certain wrecks, certain bottom structure in certain temp or feed zones.. The captains are great at locating them, and the anglers are great at catching them. We can dent those populations of big breeders, like it or not,,

15 is a decent limit.. 15 Big bass, maybe 15 or 20 big scup, several blues, maybe a ling or pollack and a few big foot long bergalls??.. Really, how much meat do we need ?.... These guys should be ashamed, honestly. Just greedy.. bob

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How many do they need? Come on, this is about the money not stocking the freezer for most of them. These are prized fish in Chinatown.

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Hey John, check it out. The rod and reel guys aren't doing the damage it's the fish pots, trawlers and roller gear.

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They are worth something alive in China town not dead. Sea Bass will get you $2.50 a pound dead.

So even if you walked off the boat with 30 sea bass at a 3lb average, thats only 90lbs.

So this guy gets $225... You might want to rethink that position.

If they were alive then you could get $8-$10 a pound... Good Luck with keeping them alive...

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Agree 1000% !!!

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I was on the boat a week or so ago and there were at least 2 announcements over the intercom during the day reminding fares of what the bag limits are for biscuits. I think a captain and crew can only do so much and that in the end it is up to the individual to demonstrate discipline and adherence to the rules. JMHO

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proove it. i know for a fact that however, that we are taking thousands of fish per boat per day. thats gotta do something. We can point fingers all we want but sooner or later where gonna have to face the facts or there will be no fish left.

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Yeah 6-7 party boats in tri state area that do these kind of fishing maybe 3-4 times a week for 2 month. I am sure that will do whole lot of damage :rolleyes:

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There are always going to be guys on any boat that feel they are entitled to take more than they are supposed to. Unfortunately this is human nature. We see it in all aspects of life. Someone sets a limit, makes a law, or ethics ect. There are always going to be pigs that don't have the control to stop when they're full. I believe if you can stuff a 94qt cooler, that's a good day. As for the Voyager or Gambler, I was on one of those boats not too long ago and saw this exact thing going on despite the captains warnings.

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The sea bass stock reached fully rebuilt status while there was a 25 fish limit. There was no reason to lower it. And if you think 15 is too many, let's see what happens if they lower it to 10 or 5- how many party boats are going to make a 50-70 mile trip for that? and how many people are going to spend that kind of money for a couple fish. Take a 5 hour or more boat ride to get to fish for 20 minutes while you get your limit of 5 or 10 fish.

We rod and reel fisherman didn't do anything to the cod, mack and ling fishery. Go mackeral fishing when they are around and watch the big processor boat out there- that's what is doing the damage, not a guy with a five teaser rig on a party boat.

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It does happen there. It happens everywhere. There were reports earlier this year on this site where a guy fished on the Voyager and "caught 38 sea bass" however, he was smart enough to put that famous quote "keeping only my legal limit" in his post. Maybe he did only keep 15 and threw the rest back, most of which probably died regardless of whether they were vented or not. If you are truly following the limit, put the rod away once you hit 15.

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Does not happen on the boat i work.. ill tell you that.. But yes i have seen it on a lot of boats And I enjoy calling them out on it... The boat/crew/capt is not the issue its the pirates that are fishing on it..