Fluke and Sea Bass Returns

[reason162]

There are huge gaping holes in fisheries management, we can all agree on that, but which parts are missing is up for debate.

Here's a good place to dig in on these complex issues if people are actually interested in another, dare I say, more scientifically literate point of view - http://oneanglersvoyage.blogspot.com/

Or by all means, carry on in this echo chamber and feel personally insulted if someone disagrees with the consensus.

[AndyS]

In November, CPO Tomlin and Recruit Szelc began reviewing commercial fishing vessel trip reports for the port of Cape May. The officers discovered a summer flounder landing that exceeded the allowable daily landing limit by 2000 pounds. The discovery prompted further investigation by CPOs Raker, Tomlin, and Recruit Szelc. Through a course of interviews, it was determined there was a miscommunication between the dealer and the vessel which led to the vessel bringing in over the trip
limit. Summonses for landing over the daily trip limit and accepting summer flounder in excess of the trip limit were issued to both the vessel and the dealer. CPOs in Cape May have been busy with the implementation of the new possession in excess of daily limit vessel license. This license allows vessels to enter port and offload catch while retaining summer
flounder and black sea bass onboard that is bound for another state. On December 13, 2020, CPO Tomlin and Recruit Szelc conducted an inspection of a commercial fishing vessel in Cape May. The vessel operator claimed to be landing scup and summer flounder under New Jersey daily landing limits and had black sea bass on board bound for Virginia. The vessel, which did not have a New Jersey black sea bass landing permit, had failed to notify the department of any landing. This is an essential requirement in the law which allows enforcement to monitor the excess fish which are being landing in New Jersey. CPO Tomlin and Recruit Szelc issued the appropriate summonses for failing to call in for 9 the possession in excess of a daily limit landing, failing to call in for a directed summer flounder landing, and exceeding the bycatch limit of black sea bass.
District 8 CPOs have been actively inspecting party fishing vessels in Atlantic and Cape May counties stemming from large quantities of undersized/over the limit fish being found in early November. On November 28, 2020, CPOs Tomlin, Meyer, Sloan and Recruit Szelc inspected two Cape May party
boats returning from black sea bass fishing trips. The officers inspected patrons as they departed the vessels and recovered approximately seventy-five illegal black sea bass. A total of eleven summonses were issued primarily for possession of over the daily limit of black sea bass. This increased
inspection frequency of party fishing vessels in Cape May and Atlantic Counties has had a noticeable impact on the violation rate of patrons as more recent inspections have resulted in minor, if any

[pectoralfin]

dakota560 In all the reading I do about the summer flounder situation, I've never had it explained the way you did. Thank you

Originally Posted by reason162

There are huge gaping holes in fisheries management, we can all agree on that, but which parts are missing is up for debate.

Here's a good place to dig in on these complex issues if people are actually interested in another, dare I say, more scientifically literate point of view - http://oneanglersvoyage.blogspot.com/

Or by all means, carry on in this echo chamber and feel personally insulted if someone disagrees with the consensus.

An echo chamber by definition is an environment in which a person encounters only beliefs or opinions that coincide with their own, so that their existing views are reinforced and alternative ideas are not considered.

You were given multiple opportunities to answer three simple questions and share your opinions but didn't or couldn't. Instead you refer people to Charles Witek's blog. Alternate ideas can only be considered and discussed if they're presented which yours weren't. I've often read Mr. Witek's blog, even he would agree stocks need protection during their spawn. We probably agree on just as much as we disagree. That's what makes for healthy debates.

More scientific? How much more scientific could something be than analysis using marine fisheries own data prepared by their scientists. I wouldn't think to test my legal skills against a Corporate Attorney like Mr. Witek. And in turn, I wouldn't think a Corporate Attorney would test his analytical skills against a Chief Financial Officer of over 30 years.

Again if your goal here is to stir the pot and simply criticize opinions and posts of others while not sharing your own, there's no constructive point in that. If you want opposing views to be discussed constructively, you need to share those views first for that to happen. Balls in your court.