Meeting with Tony Bogan

[shrimpman steve]

If tony can get us the address for Kurkel, maybe we should start a letter campaign. She admits using faulty stats, lets put her feet to the fire!

[TurboDan]

Originally Posted by CaptTB

Your mission, should you choose to accept it.......

Patricia Kurkul, regional administrator of National Marine Fisheries Service

This is one of the main people that we need to educate. She scoffed at our comments on Fluke....she was wrong. She scoffed at our comments on Porgies....she was wrong. She scoffed at our comments on Sea Bass.....she was wrong. She scoffed at our comments on MRFSS.....she was totally wrong.

We have been proven right so many times despite her best efforts to squash any comments contrary to the "best available" data it's pathetic.

It's a shame she still holds onto her job. Never a more closed minded person have I met.

I listened to this woman for about five minutes during the ASMFC conference call when they first were discussing closing sea bass and wanted to throw my cell phone out the window. What she was saying was beyond insane, and she was the one who brought up the "threat" of a federal closure when her resolution about closing sea bass fishing back then got voted down.

For anyone who'd like to take up the mission:

Patricia Kurkul
NORTHEAST REGION, NMFS
Regional Administrator, NE Region
978-281-9250
pat.kurkul@noaa.gov

[shrimpman steve]

OK guys, we have a name, an email address and a postal address. Lets start hammering her, keep it civil! lets get to work.


steve

[Reelron]

You might find some points in this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/s...ris&id=4533383

[howarda780]

Tony:

Do you have some key points that we should target in these letters? Or should we just send letters in our own words and how this shut down effects each one of us?

[Reelron]

You might find some points in this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/s...ris&id=4533383

[CaptTB]

Originally Posted by howarda780

Tony:

Do you have some key points that we should target in these letters? Or should we just send letters in our own words and how this shut down effects each one of us?

What reelron said! Look at the sea bass closure thread and read Adam's description of the problem. Knowing that there is better data to be used that was not, ask Ms. Kurkul why she would not vote in favor of having the SSC look at that data and incorporate it into their quota recommendation.

Ask Pat why she insists on trying to find new and creative ways to screw the fishermen with MRFSS data. Now they want to use it as a real-time monitoring system??

Is she that attached to MRFSS that she has to try and drain every last ounce of pain out of it before it is replaced?

Ask her why she continues to ignore the "anecdotal" and industry data provided her to refute MRFSS and other claims when even the NRC review of MRFSS clearly states that such data should be used to validate or invalidate the "best available" data NMFS uses.

How's that for a stream of conscious ramble huh?

[JonDevin]

Y'know sometimes it's very tough to determine 'tone' when reading people's posts.

Leif, I believe sportfishingusa was not calling names, but was more like rallying the troops by giving them nicknames.... I could be wrong, but based on all of his posts, I think that's all there is there.

Sport, while I agree that it is important for people to be as active as possible, it's just not reality for some folks, given scarcity of time, money and understanding. With that said, a successful fight will consist of a broad spectrum of activity from just joining as a member, through donating more than just a membership fee, all the way up through partaking in events and lobbies. If all people could do is be a member, so be it. Those numbers help when politicians evaluate sentiment. By the way, I commend you on reaching out directly to Capt. Bob... I shall bring you a red bull and vodka on the 24th, but not sure Jim/Bill will allow the vodka on board

[sportfishingusa]

Originally Posted by JonDevin

Y'know sometimes it's very tough to determine 'tone' when reading people's posts.

Leif, I believe sportfishingusa was not calling names, but was more like rallying the troops by giving them nicknames.... I could be wrong, but based on all of his posts, I think that's all there is there.

Sport, while I agree that it is important for people to be as active as possible, it's just not reality for some folks, given scarcity of time, money and understanding. With that said, a successful fight will consist of a broad spectrum of activity from just joining as a member, through donating more than just a membership fee, all the way up through partaking in events and lobbies. If all people could do is be a member, so be it. Those numbers help when politicians evaluate sentiment. By the way, I commend you on reaching out directly to Capt. Bob... I shall bring you a red bull and vodka on the 24th, but not sure Jim/Bill will allow the vodka on board

thanks jon.. you were 100 percent correct with your interpretatoin.. a


and captain TB Thanks buddy! going to get some time today and i shuld be able to get the email out today after a little more education and thinking!!

Thanks again!!

[hookspiter]

I didn't join for one good reason

Fighting the comms will not solve the problem

We both have the same interest and that should be to save the fishing weather comm or rec.

The only true records of fish being caught is by the comm fisherman as they are regulated by NOAA. They have to have to get permission to go out and must leave within 48hrs. They also must have BoaTrax on their and pay for the servicce so they can be monitored.

No I am not a comm fisherman butI think if we are to share the ocean resources we should work together to save the fish.

The people on the board, who are making the decissions are not fisherman.

Just my thoughts