73 million dollars ?

[reason162]

Let's keep the big picture in view -

The world's richest man, with billions in government subsidies/tax breaks/contracts spread out between his various companies, spends 250 million+ dollars to elect Donald Trump.

Now he's given free reign to wreak havoc in the federal government, including firing the very employees who were tasked to regulate his business with the government.

I suppose in some universe that's called Draining the swamp. Next time you see Elon in the oval it might be him behind the Resolute desk and Trump standing at attention.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

its funny how January 6th is brought up all the time but no one talks about
the summer of fire???about the billions of dollars of destruction.about over taking police depts??how one person is charged with a crime and the other just has to say he's sorry.its always one sided but i think the American public voted different this time.i think that America is looking for a change.to me it looks and sounds like a bunch of soar losers,elected officials acting like children.

You just summed up what is wrong in this 2 party system. Each justifies their wrong doing because the other did something wrong while never admitting what they did was wrong.

Simple answer both protest issues you brought up are WRONG.

Although I do think Black protesters in America have a better case on being persecuted forever ( the old how many times can you kick a person before he fights back) over the Jan 6th protesters that tried to overthrow a fair election with no evidence and the founding fathers would have major issues with their violence on the capitol as do I.

[AndyS]

Let's keep the big picture in view -

Trust me I am, had it gone the other way we would have to listen to Kamala with Oprah and Whoopi at her side, I'll take the lesser of two evils

[bunker dunker]

there was no fires or destruction??? someone gets charged with a crime and some else does it and they don't,equal justice???the only thing that is wrong with this 2 party system is that one party wants all the power and has forgot all about the people they were suppose to be watching out for.the voting public has told everyone that.i guess to some all of what the new president is doing or has already done is wrong but i guess the voters that gave him the election did it for a reason.

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by reason162

Let's keep the big picture in view -

The world's richest man, with billions in government subsidies/tax breaks/contracts spread out between his various companies, spends 250 million+ dollars to elect Donald Trump.

Now he's given free reign to wreak havoc in the federal government, including firing the very employees who were tasked to regulate his business with the government.

I suppose in some universe that's called Draining the swamp. Next time you see Elon in the oval it might be him behind the Resolute desk and Trump standing at attention.

Please define what "wreak havoc" means in your post and how USAID had any regulatory influences on Elon Musk's businesses or the Department of Education for that matter. And then post how much money Soros contributed to the Harris / Walz campaign as I'm sure he expected nothing in return for his contributions. Just asking from a big picture perspective.

Just remember including Super Pac money, the Harris Campaign raised $2.9 billion in this election versus $1.8 billion for Trump and lost. And you think Elon Musk is the threat? The Democrats pissed off a lot of donors and are now trying to save face by interfering with the candidate America trusted and voted into office. The Democratic Party has lost its way, they had three candidates at different times on the ticket who collectively couldn't complete a cohesive sentence.

The way the liberal media and Democratic Party tried to con the American public into believing that Biden was not cognitively impaired and unable and not qualified to hold the office of the Presidency of the United States and the way that Democratic Party went about removing him from the ticket might possibly be the greatest fraud in American history involving any Presidential Election. So if we want to compare notes and look at the entirety of the big picture let's not forget what's happened over the last 6 months or for that matter over the prior administration's four year term.

[Broad Bill]

Dave a few questions.. When you have Democratic members of Congress who are publicly saying they're going to take the fight to the street inciting violence against the current administration, isn't that a form of insurrection? When you have blue state Governors, Mayors and DA's who refused to follow Federal deportation protocols, isn't that a form of insurrection? When Biden, Harris and Mayorkas blatantly lied to Congress saying that the southern border is secure, isn't that also a form of insurrection? When Biden sends the National Guard to Texas to prevent Governor Abbott from protecting his own citizens from an invasion of illegal immigrants, isn't that an insurrection? When our own Governor Murphy says he's housing and illegal and will not confirm with ICE regulations, is that not also a form of insurrection? Would our Founding Fathers tolerate any of the above, don't think they would.

It's beyond time to start putting America and Americans first which starts with revamping Washington and reminding politicians and agencies that they exist to service the citizens of this Country and not the other way around.

[dales529]

This is exactly what annoys those in the middle. Based on everything posted on here HTF does anyone not see what's right in front of your face? They want you fighting so they can get paid for failing!

No one said there was was no fire or destruction in BLM but yet ignore the same on Jan 6th?. I can watch the videos of each again but guess what I will see is what I saw. Both destroying s-t and police abuse. But who cares because the other side did it to so all is OK

Voters give all presidents the election for a reason and guess what the founding fathers welcomed debate. Last I checked what party doesn't want all the power they can get?

My God the ignorance in this countries citizens is what's more out of control worse than the government! But lets cut education. health care, etc LOL. Hope some of you survive

When does seabass open?

[AndyS]

This is totally us !!

[bunker dunker]

well as for me i like to look at it as it is and what i see is a hat trick for one side and a goose egg for the other.i pray everyday that this great nation can get back on its feet and i really like what i have been seeing lately.

[Fishguy1]

Thought experiment:

Kamala won and it was George Soros standing in the Oval Office lecturing America about unelected bureaucrats.

That would be ok, right?

Right?