If You Drop a Charter Rod Overboard? - Page 4 - NJFishing.com Your Best Online Source for Fishing Information in New Jersey

AJFISH13 · #31 02-25-2013, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Pedro

We are not so much talking about broken gear we are talking lost gear . But since you brought it up party boats have to go with what gives them the best bang for the buck . Something that is sturdy and can take a beating . Novice/inexperianced Anglers tend to trash rental rods . Penn 60's/Senators and glass rods are good for this job . Would you want your Accurate/Seeker rented out on a crowded Bluefish boat 100 times a year to someone who doesn't know which way the reel faces ? We try to service our reels/refill before every trip . I loaned out my Bogan/Penn 505 four times last Bluefish Season only to have the anti reverse broken once , and the reel backlashed so bad two other times that I had to respool after the trip . ONE TIME it came back in usable condition at the end of the trip . When the reel broke the person offered to have it fixed . I declined and fixed it myself . He is still welcome to use my stuff .

X2. But on the subject of replacing damaged rods, yes I would offer to pay for it in a heartbeat. If it was a high end outfit, Id setup a payment plan no problem. I wouldnt feel right if I didnt pay for another outfit.

Flukemeister1 · #32 02-25-2013, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Frank

BIZARRE QUESTION.

In general if you BARROW someone else's stuff and destroy it. Why would you ever think if OK to walk away without paying for their property you just ruined?

Is this a trick question?

No just an etiquette question. I completely agree with you and that's why I hate borrowing other people's stuff.

007Hookem · #33 02-25-2013, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frugalfisherman

The only honorable thing to do is to dive in after it.

I second that.....there is great honor in diving over the rail. If not the skipper's respect, definitely his attention.

reefsquater · #34 02-25-2013, 08:11 PM

If you drop anything and break or lose it you should pay for it, shouldn't be any question or thought.

Sad part is, so many people today will blame others and not own up or pay for their mistakes, it is a big part of the reason we are where we are as a nation.

blynch · #35 02-25-2013, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltLife1980

and chrislars.. i disagree.. I have seen brand new robs snap when people try to lift a big fish and swing them into the boat.... Nothing to do with crappy stuff..

Any party boat that I've ever been on discourages people from doing this except when the fish is tiny. Rods snap, hooks pull out, green fish go crazy... If the boat says wait for a gaff, and you still swing away, I would think it would be on you...

devildogski · #36 02-25-2013, 08:54 PM

Here one for you all I have been on a head boat before where the mate dropped my setup over board trying to deal with a tangle....think they offered to pay me back? nope not even a free trip from that party boat so I think unless u sign something saying if you loose it you pay for if hell NO

SaltLife1980 · #37 02-25-2013, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blynch

Any party boat that I've ever been on discourages people from doing this except when the fish is tiny. Rods snap, hooks pull out, green fish go crazy... If the boat says wait for a gaff, and you still swing away, I would think it would be on you...

When you are catching blue fish and not keeping them.. I will not gaff the fish... Unless its a 20+ pound beast.. Why kill it.. Swing them over the rail.. and throw em back.. Duck or Bleed style.. Have seen some monsters swung over the rails with no problems.. and of course you get jigs and hooks popping out but its all part of the game..

Pennsy Guy · #38 02-25-2013, 10:51 PM

I have, upon occassion, given my rod with a fish(tuna) on to an angler who hasn't, nearing the trip's end, had a fish or even a runoff--only thing I ever said was "don't drop it overboard"...so far, so good...they've gotten a fish and I got my outfit back--once it was the pool fish....On the other hand, I've caused a spinning rod to drop out of an overhead storage while switching outfits...needless to say, the reel stem broke...asked around until I found the owner to pay him, he wouldn't take any payment...that still bothers me.....I can't conceive of not paying--or offering to pay for gear I've broken or lost overboard...
I know on one PB, the charge on "lost" gear is right on there in black & white and I'm sure it's not the only one that has it listed...

blynch · #39 02-26-2013, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltLife1980

When you are catching blue fish and not keeping them.. I will not gaff the fish... Unless its a 20+ pound beast.. Why kill it.. Swing them over the rail.. and throw em back.. Duck or Bleed style.. Have seen some monsters swung over the rails with no problems.. and of course you get jigs and hooks popping out but its all part of the game..

I'm with ya 100%... why kill what you dont want, I'd risk a jig going flying to save a fish any day... all I'm saying is, if someone snaps one of the boat's sticks doing that after they specifically told him not to, it's kinda tough to say its not the fisherman's responsibility...

retax1 · #40 02-26-2013, 01:25 AM

In hemmingway's "to have and have not" a customer lays a rod [stupidly] across his lap . when a marlin hits the rod is lost . Capt Morgan [Humphry Bogart in the movie ] charges for the rod and the customer agrees to pay . In the movie The customer tries to skip town . Bogie gets him and gets paid . In the book he gets away ......... A few years ago a rod fell from the rod holder of a certain boat while i was putting it up . As a gesture of good will I offered to replace it . the charter wanted cash . twice what it in fact cost me to replace the exact ugly stick baitrunner combo . I gave him a new replacement set up in the hope of maintaing 'good will' . He was still sore . Boggie would have been proud .