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Old 02-13-2025, 10:01 AM
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If I-9 forms are filled out accurately or temporary work Visas provided, undocumented immigrants will get full credit for withholdings and benefits. The problem starts when fraudulent social security numbers or documents are given employers and when the SSA identifies it and the employer is contacted, the undocumented employee gets out of dodge and their tax withholdings end up in limbo as they can't file a tax return. Seen it happen hundreds of times. The more manual labor a business uses, the more prevalent the problem. The process might not be perfect but it's not the process that's the problem. It's undocumented immigrants trying to circumvent the system without going through proper protocols. Is the government to blame for that and what would you suggest the federal and state governments do with the withholdings when the person involved was employed under false pretenses and can't be found or contacted. Should taxpayers funds again be used to track them down to return money obtained illegally?

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Old 02-13-2025, 11:06 AM
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with a 37 trillion dollar bill hanging over Americas head don't you think we should be looking to cut our spending??elon is not our commander and chief simply a man that knows were to cut the fat.as far as illegals go,both sets of my grandparents came to this county as immigrants.they came thru the front door
though and did what was asked of them.they received one thing from this great nation,a dream.if this President is so wrong then why did so many vote for him?.why are people wrong for wanting America to come first??.i hear no one
yelling and screaming about the veteran sleeping on a park bench but you do hear them wanting men to play in woman's sports.
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Old 02-13-2025, 11:38 AM
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Bunker well said! And the liberal media and Democrats maintain no one voted for Elon Musk. Trump created a much needed agency that will pay huge dividends yet the left challenges Elon Musk being hired to lead the charge.

Yet the same far left progressive party had no problem with a coup to remove Biden from the 2024 ticket, failed to acknowledge his failed cognitive function, replaced him without one American vote with Harris who wasn't included in the primary to represent the party all because Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries, O'Bama, Soros and Clinton all thought it was constitutionally correct to force the presiding president off the ticket as the presidential nominee to represent their party. Maybe we should be more focused on that hypocrisy and the legalities of that coup and less time on Elon Musk who is actually doing his job and something constructive to change the absolute dysfunction that exists in Washington.

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Old 02-13-2025, 12:02 PM
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right on Bill,the left always has a problem with what the right is doing.how come no one is talking about obama and google,he did the same thing??what is really amazing is how no one on the left can just give this new President a chance.how as a country we can not enjoy a fair and legal election,how sad.
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Old 02-13-2025, 12:36 PM
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i think its been said 6 or seven times that both sides are guilty.you say the gop gets hurt and the gop says the dems will be hurt???how come we can not find common ground on these common sense issues?? the budget has to be a common sense issue as it effects everyone.
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Old 02-13-2025, 01:05 PM
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Wow take a breath! Its just a discussion. I have always been in the middle / fiscally conservative and socially care for those that need a hand up.
Don't watch the View but apparently Dan does

This complaint about each party is as bad on the right as it is on the left and being in the middle don't even care anymore. I do what's best for my family and my business as both sides are out of control including most of the posts here probably mine too
Same with right wing media and left wing media. read some books instead of the TV.

How can you say in one breath give this president who won a fair election a break and its sad when for the last president who won a fair election the country was tortured about a stolen election with zero evidence. How soon we forget Jan 6th insurrection!

Never cared about the USA debt either as for my whole life 66 years all we heard is that I was going to pay, my kids were going to pay. my grand children were going to pay LOL NO ONE is going to pay!

If anything I expect that Trump never paying his personal debts and just going bankrupt 13 times stiffing honest construction workers (who I know many of) at his properties will do the same with the national debt as he is good at that. Guess what as a small business owner I VOTED for HIM.

The fact as BB said is that businesses do their best to vet new employees based on the documents they provide and those documents can look real but to say it doesn't happen is ridiculous. Why not focus and what your government does with all that free tax revenue ???? Its NOT on business owners and NO I didnt hire any of them.

Anyone who thinks Elon isn't going to personally or business benefit from DOGE is drinking the newest Kool Aid out there.

I am out as I don't care and will keep making money for my family regardless as the economy has been strong for years sans inflation that anyone could see coming after Covid. Its just they way things work and either you address it for your own benefit like they do or you lose.

But dont cut the help for those that need it so society works for all as the government has plenty of money just mis guided on where it goes.
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Old 02-13-2025, 01:06 PM
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I just want to get rid of pennies, Australia did it years ago. Then we can move toward the metric system like the rest of the world.
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Old 02-13-2025, 01:17 PM
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Both parties are at fault. What we now have is multiple highly successful businessmen along with some intelligent Cabinet Members bringing management to Government as opposed to political rhetoric. Run government like a well run company is all the American middle class are asking for. Without checks and balances you have chaos and what we have now is a system riddled with more corruption and wasteful spending than anyone could ever imagine. We all voted for change, well this is the face of change.

Does anyone think if Harris / Walz won the election in November any of these issues would be surfacing or being addressed. That's an emphatic no. This Country is at an inflection point, how we got here can be debated forever and the answer is as a whole the manner in which the government has and is being run. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Conservatives, Progressives and Moderates alike, I blame them all. They all have culpability here. How we got here is less important than how we right the ship and move forward.

We have highly intelligent people in office voted there by 77 million Americans to change the way government is being run. Let them do their jobs because the alternative is remaining on a crash course with bankruptcy.
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Old 02-13-2025, 01:40 PM
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its funny how January 6th is brought up all the time but no one talks about
the summer of fire???about the billions of dollars of destruction.about over taking police depts??how one person is charged with a crime and the other just has to say he's sorry.its always one sided but i think the American public voted different this time.i think that America is looking for a change.to me it looks and sounds like a bunch of soar losers,elected officials acting like children.
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Old 02-13-2025, 03:12 PM
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While we seem to be on government can anyone tell me what ever happened to the "Modern Fishing Act of 2018" and how much was spent on it and how it has helped the recreational fishing community?
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