Offshore wind farms

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by acabtp

Huh, so solar panels ruin the ground forever??? That's a new one for me! Source?

https://fee.org/articles/solar-panel...ste-literally/
There are dozens of similar articles... Solar cells are full of poison, and cannot be easily disposed of.
I have no problem with solar, have a very expensive solar backup system on my roof, that hasn't worked at all since we had it installed.. They are supposed to come get it right soon... However, solar panels are NO long term solution.

[JMo1986]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

Both wind farms and solar are short based fixes (a bandaid )
They have a life expectancy of under 25 years .
At the end of the 25 years their structures are incredibly toxic to the environment .
Wind farm reconstruction doesn’t happen as it’s not cost effective .
Solar panels aren’t allowed to be sent to dumps , fields they were installed in are never to produce food again .

We are just replacing one toxin with another .


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You really think the federal government will allow a wind turbine to “melt” into the water? The turbines will be decommissioned (aka remove chemical equipment) or retrofitted to a newer version. Europe started offshore wind and those units are nowhere near 25 years old so I honestly don’t know what the owners will do. These “toxins” you speak of would be primarily fiberglass (blades) and concrete structure in most cases. I am absolutely sure there is not 10 million fiberglass fishings rods on the wrecks of nj and no wrecks consisting of construction concrete. Not to mention that manufacturers have developing recyclable blades for a few years and it should go serial soon enough.

Also regarding wind being well subsidized and not profitable. Why don’t you check out fossil fuel subsidies and stop complaining about expensive gas. It’s all a racket.

[damnyankee]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

So you’re saying Let’s Kill Some More? Where’s the mute button on this thing?! I get enough Lefty propaganda and don’t need it here. https://www.masterresource.org/cuisi...altamont-pass/

and buildings kill almost 1 BILLION per year, holy cow!:

https://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/ne...irds-annually/

save the birds! ban all buildings over 2 stories! and get off my damn lawn!

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by JMo1986

You really think the federal government will allow a wind turbine to “melt” into the water? The turbines will be decommissioned (aka remove chemical equipment) or retrofitted to a newer version. Europe started offshore wind and those units are nowhere near 25 years old so I honestly don’t know what the owners will do. These “toxins” you speak of would be primarily fiberglass (blades) and concrete structure in most cases. I am absolutely sure there is not 10 million fiberglass fishings rods on the wrecks of nj and no wrecks consisting of construction concrete. Not to mention that manufacturers have developing recyclable blades for a few years and it should go serial soon enough.

Also regarding wind being well subsidized and not profitable. Why don’t you check out fossil fuel subsidies and stop complaining about expensive gas. It’s all a racket.

The Monopiles are not made from Concrete , they are made of a steel tube driven into the sea bed .

I def agree something has to change in the gas game , but what’s being sold as the alternative is as bad a bill of goods .
And is just as damaging or more to the environment.

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[JMo1986]

Also agree that their is still work to be done on supply chain, but the technology is improving rapidly and manufactures/owners are more sensitive to making everything recyclable (or green).

I just don't see the same negatives relative to other energy sector pollution concerns (Exxon Valdez, Deepwater Horizon/BP, Fukushima, etc). Those environmental disasters have all caused more harm to marine life than wind turbines will ever cause....

We also dump trash in the ocean, so I guess society is not as concerned about it all as we are as sportsmen.

F' it dude, let's go bowling.

[Capt Sal]

And i thought this was not a Political Site?

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by Capt Sal

And i thought this was not a Political Site?

Its not... However sometimes 2 topics are inseparably intertwined, and must be discussed together.. I would say the political implications and the fisheries management issues concerning wind farms are both valid topics in this discussion.