"Codfather" busted

[teddysclaw]

Originally Posted by Capt. Frank

I doubt. Not all commercial guys are scum bags. No more than the gaggles of Asians who keep everything their hooks bring in off a dock representative of recreational guys.

It's just one POS

Much like you don't want the "gaggles of Asians" to be representative of the entire recreational sector..... I think that most Asian fishermen who follow the rules don't want the poachers("gaggles of Asians") to be representative for all Asian fishermen...

The blatant hypocrisy in this statement was just something I had to point out xD

I know plenty of poachers that are white, black, asian, latino, etc. I also know plenty of Asian, White, Black, Latino fishermen that adhere to the rules and only keep legal catch. It was just curious that you didn't want a small group of poachers to be the face of the recreational fishery, but had no problem judging an entire ethnic group based on a few poachers of similar ethnicity.

Food for thought

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by teddysclaw

Much like you don't want the "gaggles of Asians" to be representative of the entire recreational sector..... I think that most Asian fishermen who follow the rules don't want the poachers("gaggles of Asians") to be representative for all Asian fishermen...

The blatant hypocrisy in this statement was just something I had to point out xD

I know plenty of poachers that are white, black, asian, latino, etc. I also know plenty of Asian, White, Black, Latino fishermen that adhere to the rules and only keep legal catch. It was just curious that you didn't want a small group of poachers to be the face of the recreational fishery, but had no problem judging an entire ethnic group based on a few poachers of similar ethnicity.

Food for thought

If you"know'' them that you should turn them in???

[bowhunter]

Originally Posted by Capt Sal

If you"know'' them that you should turn them in???

Yes He should. But Capt Frank should also turn in the gaggles of Asians that He knows about.

[Capt. Debbie]

I did turn them in.

They had two 5 gallon buckets full of way short fluke. The Asian food stores in Fort Lee, River Edge, Bergenfield ALL have undersized crabs and fish for sale.

Another was in Sandy Hook bay side a two family picnic, 4 rods dead sticked and a bucket of flounder.

I keep them (NJ Fish & Game) in my address book 800.432.4263 for such occasions. All you can do is call them. Both groups left with their fish. No enforcement occurred.

When the flounder clan was told ( by me and at least one other) their fish are too small, they smiled, thank me and kept fishing.

YOU MISS THE POINT, and make it again in your answer. This is isolated guys like the commercial guy(topic of this string) or Asian families. One is NOT ALL. PLEASE RE-READ.

Originally Posted by Capt Sal

If you"know'' them that you should turn them in???

[Honger]

Funny, i was on a sponsor partyboat for fluking out of AH few summers ago, the mates were cutting short fluke for customers and kept the racks in a separate bucket from the keepers and dumped them over the side on the ride in. If i recall correctly, i was the only person with yellow face that day.

Even funnier how a certain sponsor partyboat from belmar probably did more damage to the short fluke population over the course of couple years than the entire yellow fishermen combined in the state of NJ. I am hard time trying to remember but if i recall correctly, the owner, the mate, and majority of customers on that sponsor boat has white face.

Oh the hypocricy of some of you white folks, some of you must think you still live in the era of Rosa Parks.

[reason162]

The category under discussion, previous to Capt. Frank's contribution to the thread, was "commercial captains." Capt Frank then used the category of "Asians" to make a (rather unnecessary) point that not all commercial captains are villains.

As an Asian dude...I don't think Capt. Frank meant any harm, and if he did, I don't waste any time in my life being "offended." But do recognize that "Asian" is a racial category, while "commercial captain" is not.

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by reason162

The category under discussion, previous to Capt. Frank's contribution to the thread, was "commercial captains." Capt Frank then used the category of "Asians" to make a (rather unnecessary) point that not all commercial captains are villains.

As an Asian dude...I don't think Capt. Frank meant any harm, and if he did, I don't waste any time in my life being "offended." But do recognize that "Asian" is a racial category, while "commercial captain" is not.

Poacher come in all colors.You Asians are getting a bad rep because of the shark fin thing.Once you are here and are familiar with the law and our bag lomits there is no excuse for anyone to keep buckets of tiny fish. This thread is supposed to be about commercial guys and there greed.

[Gerry Zagorski]

This thing reads like a spy novel
http://www.motherjones.com/environme...ud-catchshares

[bowhunter]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

This thing reads like a spy novel
http://www.motherjones.com/environme...ud-catchshares

Good read.

[Capt. Lou]

Maybe from a commercials point of view the cod is in serious trouble in the GOM , however many of my rod n reel friends fish up there for other species & seem at times to be overwhelmed by cod throwbacks in some locations .
Even when I fished up there regularly cod fish were present , however unlike years back 20# fish would be huge ! Big ones tough !
So we as Rod n reel anglers caused this lack of fish , or did commercials that can now conveniently say it's a climate change issue . I'm not discounting this theory at all but to what degree when southern locations are producing decent catches of school cod , not like 30yrs ago but fairly steady ! Something to think about I guess ! Along with doggies , lack of bait mackerel - herring commercially harvested this all effects cod & how they reproduce at solid levels !