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Eskimo · #21 07-27-2014, 11:19 AM

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Looking at his Facebook page, I can see he considered himself a pilot and a flight instructor.
https://www.facebook.com/AzianPhoenix

So, this is somebody trained to do safety checks and be alert for potentially dangerous situations, yet he was lulled into a false sense of confidence by the deceptively calm waters of Round Valley.

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FASTEDDIE29 · #22 07-27-2014, 01:12 PM

Very sad and very young. Horrible! Strangely enough I recieved a friend request from this young man via FB 2 weeks ago. Didn't have any mutual friends that I could see so I declined. Friggin weird man! Damn!!! May he rest in peace!!!

acabtp · #23 07-28-2014, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishinfire

Also, I see alot of people that wear waders in their kayak. To me that is a bad idea. If you do fall in, they can fill with water and you will sink like a bucket of water.

Buckets of water don't sink (go try it out yourself). Waders, hip boots, etc do NOT pull you under... That is a common fishing misconception.

Just google wader drowning myth and see for yourself all the videos of people happily swimming in their waders. Not dangerous.

buzzbaiter · #24 07-28-2014, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by acabtp

Buckets of water don't sink (go try it out yourself). Waders, hip boots, etc do NOT pull you under... That is a common fishing misconception.

Just google wader drowning myth and see for yourself all the videos of people happily swimming in their waders. Not dangerous.

I wouldn't say not dangerous more like not a death sentence. I certainly wouldn't recommend swimming in them

Ken Lyons · #25 07-29-2014, 05:36 PM

According to the local EMT's he couldn't swim!!

briansnat · #26 07-30-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hudsonfisherman

I am sorry for his friends and family. I live very close to RV, swim my dog there a couple times a week and also Scuba dive it regularly. We often enter the water right at the Kayak launch area and follow the bottom out to 50-80 ft or so. I think the park commission could do a better job of warning Kayakers and canoers about the dangers of open water and enforcing the PFD requirement. We see people all the time with overloaded canoes and kayaks departing and heading for the campgrounds on the other side of the lake with probably no real open water experience in boating or swimming without a thought for self rescue or eventual rescue by others. One sunday morning we were diving when the wind picked up and the State Police and a bunch of private boaters rescued an entire bachelor party in kayaks and canoes trying to return from the campground, several of them had overturned shortly after they left shore but rather than go back they still tryed to forge ahead against the wind to the far shore. ...

Did this bachelor party rescue happen to occur last fall? We were camping there (Late Oct I think) when conditions were particularly brutal on Sunday morning. I saw a few canoes trying to paddle from the campground into the wind and a look through the binoculars showed they were having a tough go. I told my wife to call the park police because I was certain it wouldn't end well. Finally one was blown back to shore near our campsite. I went over to offer him assistance and he said it was a Boy Scout troop. They had sent most of the kids back via the hiking trail and the adults and older kids attempted to paddle back. A passing boater picked this guy up, so we packed up camp and headed into the waves. It was a wet ride back but I was glad wasn't in a canoe.

Half way across the lake we ran into an exhausted guy in a canoe just sitting there being tossed by the waves. He told us he was part of a bachelor party that had spent the weekend at the campground, but paddling back to the launch the wind and waves had scattered them. We threw him a line and tried to tow him, but had to go real slow. Eventually a rescue boat passed by and we flagged it down and they took him and his canoe aboard.

When we got back to the launch we were talking to some SAR guys and they said they had to pull a few canoers out of the water. Thankfully they were smart enough to be wearing PFDs. That water was only in the low 60's and they probably wouldn't have lasted long without them.

stevejordan · #27 07-30-2014, 11:37 AM

last week

briansnat · #28 07-30-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stevejordan

last week

I meant the situation that Hudsonfisherman was referring to with the rescue of the bachelor party. That was last week?

hudsonfisherman · #29 08-04-2014, 12:19 AM

Yes Briansnat, the bachelor party rescue was last fall and there was a boy scout troop involved at the same time now that I think about it. There were at least two boys that we saw brought back to the kayak launch on the rescue boat with a canoe onboard and they had scout shirts and hats on. They looked pretty worried until an adult leader came in vehicle and re-united with them. It happened while we were diving because we kept hearing the rescue boat running back and forth and knew it was more than the normal 9.9hp. we surfaced at the campers launch as it was going on. I asked one of the 25-30ish year old guys I saw bring in how did he end up being brought back in a rescue boat with his canoe onboard and he told me the same story you related. It was lucky that round valley didn't claim a few more that day, it was close. This most recent accident just brings it back to focus that all the ingredients for it to happen again are still there.

briansnat · #30 08-04-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hudsonfisherman

Yes Briansnat, the bachelor party rescue was last fall and there was a boy scout troop involved at the same time now that I think about it. There were at least two boys that we saw brought back to the kayak launch on the rescue boat with a canoe onboard and they had scout shirts and hats on. They looked pretty worried until an adult leader came in vehicle and re-united with them. It happened while we were diving because we kept hearing the rescue boat running back and forth and knew it was more than the normal 9.9hp. we surfaced at the campers launch as it was going on. I asked one of the 25-30ish year old guys I saw bring in how did he end up being brought back in a rescue boat with his canoe onboard and he told me the same story you related. It was lucky that round valley didn't claim a few more that day, it was close. This most recent accident just brings it back to focus that all the ingredients for it to happen again are still there.

Must have been the same day. The waves were brutal, I'm not sure why the strobe lights weren't going. I'd like to take credit for getting the rescue going, but when we called the park police they said they were aware of the situation and on their way. We did give one of the bachelor party members a tow but it turned out that that was almost as dangerous as paddling (if not more). We had to go really, really slow or he would have dumped. Thankfully the rescue boat we flagged down took him and his boat. I later learned that a canoe shouldn't be towed on a line in rough water, it should be lashed to the side of the tow boat.