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Old 02-09-2014, 10:11 AM
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Make sure to sign the Saltwater Registry so they can twist those numbers against you also.

I actually want to get caught now, so I can follow the money trail and where it leads to. But if I don't pay the fine, will I not be allowed to go fishing in the Atlantic ocean ?
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:22 AM
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The charter and party boats are the ones who are really suffering, this is their livelyhood. Their expenses don't go down with the regs. just their income. Tragic, there is a total disregard for the businessman, you wouldn't believe what the draggers kill, a joke.
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:32 AM
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Consider this:
The stock has been called "rebuilt" by fisheries managers
Cutting this years bag limit and increasing size is more about politics (Schumer and the fluke fairness act) than it is about fisheries management.

I went to the meetings, i submitted comments, i even read all of the written comments on the ASFMC website. Option 3, which got us to this point, was strongly opposed by most of the written and verbal comments. It just wrong the council ignored what we asked them to do and caved to politicians.

The guys that are unhappy with and threaten to turn in fellow anglers that say publicly they will keep what they catch is part of the problem.

I see no problem with keeping a gut hooked short and applying it to my limit. I actually look forward to taking a picture of the fish, getting a violation and going in front of a judge with my picture.
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:55 AM
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Great way to join and make friends by threatening rat out your fellow recreational fisherman. Do you often rat out people?
I believe we shoud be self regualted as in we get to make our own regualtions, not being forced by our government telling us what, when and how big of flish we can keep.
Name me one fishery, except striped bass, where the fishery has A) been rebuilt and regulations liberalized B) fishery regualtions have actually helped?
Winter flounder - No (B)
Summer flounder No (A)
Weakfish - No
Blackfish - No (B)
Seabass - (A)
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Hi y'all,

Brand new to posting on this site but have been following for a while. I stummnled on this thread and am really upset by the fact that is seems like people plan to make there own ysarlimits and disrespect the law and law biding citizens. I noticed a trend as of the last few years more and more people throwing that questionable size fish in there cooler and even some mates and captains turning a blind eye to these actions. It saddens me to see such a wonderful past time being ruined by so many. I believe it is time for honest fisherman to start policing there own. Looks like I'll be helping the state make some $ with turning in these dispicable cowards.

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Old 02-09-2014, 10:55 AM
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Whalefart
Great way to join and make friends by threatening rat out your fellow recreational fisherman. Do you often rat out people?
I believe we shoud be self regualted as in we get to make our own regualtions, not being forced by our government telling us what, when and how big of flish we can keep.
Name me one fishery, except striped bass, where the fishery has A) been rebuilt and regulations liberalized B) fishery regualtions have actually helped?
Winter flounder - No (B)
Summer flounder No (A)
Weakfish - No
Blackfish - No (B)
Seabass - (A)
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:51 AM
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Whalefart
Great way to join and make friends by threatening rat out your fellow recreational fisherman. Do you often rat out people?
I believe we shoud be self regualted as in we get to make our own regualtions, not being forced by our government telling us what, when and how big of flish we can keep.
Name me one fishery, except striped bass, where the fishery has A) been rebuilt and regulations liberalized B) fishery regualtions have actually helped?
Winter flounder - No (B)
Summer flounder No (A)
Weakfish - No
Blackfish - No (B)
Seabass - (A)
Couldn't agree more! His name fits him well.....
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:59 AM
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I wonder if Whalefart turns himself in when he drives over the speed limit. Assuming he is smart enough to drive.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:12 PM
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If you read the post 2014 fluke regulations youll see what im talking about Statements like my frying pan doesnt have a size limit or on my boat i make my own rules etc are what im talking about.I dont want to single any one person out and i can understand their frustration.
I can see not one person you are trying to single out just all the ASIANS
I will tell my grand kids, they are considered as criminals when fishing in your eyes.
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:15 PM
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it's about the person u are ! if you are an honest human being you will take what the regs say you can take per person as of now it will be 4 at 18. i was out with my brother bass fishing and we trolled up a door mat one week before the opener and we took pics and through it back. as much as we wanted to bring the fillets to the dock, we still put it back! some people try to hide and sneak but that only sets bad examples. now that being said .....is there anything wrong with bringing 6 guys out on the boat , catching full limit and going back to the dock filleting them up and only 4 of the 6 taking the fillets home ! thats the million dollar question , i say it could be cheating ....but i dont frown on it !
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Old 02-09-2014, 12:41 PM
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it's about the person u are ! if you are an honest human being you will take what the regs say you can take per person as of now it will be 4 at 18. i was out with my brother bass fishing and we trolled up a door mat one week before the opener and we took pics and through it back. as much as we wanted to bring the fillets to the dock, we still put it back! some people try to hide and sneak but that only sets bad examples. now that being said .....is there anything wrong with bringing 6 guys out on the boat , catching full limit and going back to the dock filleting them up and only 4 of the 6 taking the fillets home ! thats the million dollar question , i say it could be cheating ....but i dont frown on it !
It has nothing to do with being an honest person. You do have some valid points. It would be one thing to follow just regulations. But to allow unjust regulations tainted by a big money lobbyist by a corrupt self serving government does not make me or anyone else dishonest. We as a country seceded from England for this very reason!!! This is how our country was founded. By the people for the people. Not by the government for the government. It's about money. That my friends is dishonest and reprehensible!!! To cater or pander to this is un American I stand with the people not this government. Nough said flush hard my friends. I'm mostly a catch and release guy so you won't have to worry about me. But to other that love to fish I say make your own rules because you have more to lose then anyone else on this matter. Last but not least **** the US government they are all corrupt, bought and sold pieces of human garbage. Can you hear me now
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