RFA Says Shared Recipe for Disaster Could Be No Fluke

[1captainron]

GET THE WORD OUT?
Sorry to say guys, but the "Word" has been out for years!! I've been going through this crap for most of my career, trips to Washington, meetings with those in Gov positions who act like they give a shit but push you out the door cause they have another call or something more important to address.....Fishing has been and always will be a recreational activity, for those of us who make a living doing this, it's a way of life, to those we've catered to it's a day off, a great sport, a way to get a moment of bliss from a stress filled life, it doesn't consume their lives. To those it's a memory when it's gone. To us, it's a lifetime of devotion and hard work that we see taken away for no other reason than stupidity and greed by people who have been empowered to do a job that does more harm than good.
Putting one another against each other (Commercial, Recreational,State by State) just keeps us all on a different page, we will never come together.
When they tell us the Stock's have been rebuilt and no overfishing has occurred, they still want to reduce the catch and bag limit, Why? The Spring season now is limited to Striped bass, flounder fishing is gone! The pressure on Striped bass will now force a 1 fish limit come 2015...is this sound fishery management? Stupid is as stupid does, but this is management at it's finest. If you think for a minute those thousands of people who own boats, fish on charter or party boats will actually sit and take a minute to right a letter and voice their displeasure, you got it all wrong, the proof was when it mattered to get on the bus to Washington.

The system is taking away everything this great county was based on, hard work and things we believe in........All the hard working people who have done this all their lives (generations) of families, have never once been asked to give their professional impute on to how things should be managed or addressed. We've done this all our lives, do they not think we know what is best, were out there everyday, we see the cycles, the changes, what it takes to keep a healthy fishery viable. No, some BS science has done that and look were we are now....Like I've said in the past, my grand-kids will probably ask their parents "Did Grandpa really used to take people fishing".
SAD PEOPLE, VERY" SAD!!!!

[Dave A]

Amen Ron!

[RussA]

Originally Posted by dales529

SUMMER FLOUNDER REGIONALIZATION

A SHARED RECIPE FOR DISASTER


January 16, 2014 -



RFA said the overall problem in the recreational community is that anglers and business owners don't often get active in protest and reform efforts until the pendulum swings in the opposite direction.



"It's time for everybody in all the states and all the groups to get on the same page and call for Magnuson reform," Donofrio said, adding "this hurray for me, I don't care about you attitude is killing our industry and destroying our opportunity for change."

So why does your organization not start working with a NY organization or is this just another talking point and smoke and mirrors?

Because I fish on NJ party Boats and all I hear are captains saying screw NY let them get fish from somewhere else and you are their voices so that would mean you feel the same way.

Where can I find verbiage of your olive branch (trying to reach out) that was extended to any state that you wanted to work together against the regulators?

[Irish Jigger]

72 Days til April!!

[Detour66]

Nothing can be achieved without mass organization! There are millions of fisherman and we have the power to vote....spend money and protest. What is needed isn't a mid-week protest when most are working but a weekend protest's on the local...state and federal level. We must be relentless! If other special interest groups can get laws changed why cant we? Who will be the leader of such a movement? There are plenty of organizations out there that people donate money to that although they are fighting the good fight ....are not doing enough in MHO! Time to get serious people....or say goodbye to a way of life and a right!

[dales529]

Originally Posted by 1captainron

GET THE WORD OUT?
Sorry to say guys, but the "Word" has been out for years!! I've been going through this crap for most of my career, trips to Washington, meetings with those in Gov positions who act like they give a shit but push you out the door cause they have another call or something more important to address.....Fishing has been and always will be a recreational activity, for those of us who make a living doing this, it's a way of life, to those we've catered to it's a day off, a great sport, a way to get a moment of bliss from a stress filled life, it doesn't consume their lives. To those it's a memory when it's gone. To us, it's a lifetime of devotion and hard work that we see taken away for no other reason than stupidity and greed by people who have been empowered to do a job that does more harm than good.
Putting one another against each other (Commercial, Recreational,State by State) just keeps us all on a different page, we will never come together.
When they tell us the Stock's have been rebuilt and no overfishing has occurred, they still want to reduce the catch and bag limit, Why? The Spring season now is limited to Striped bass, flounder fishing is gone! The pressure on Striped bass will now force a 1 fish limit come 2015...is this sound fishery management? Stupid is as stupid does, but this is management at it's finest. If you think for a minute those thousands of people who own boats, fish on charter or party boats will actually sit and take a minute to right a letter and voice their displeasure, you got it all wrong, the proof was when it mattered to get on the bus to Washington.

The system is taking away everything this great county was based on, hard work and things we believe in........All the hard working people who have done this all their lives (generations) of families, have never once been asked to give their professional impute on to how things should be managed or addressed. We've done this all our lives, do they not think we know what is best, were out there everyday, we see the cycles, the changes, what it takes to keep a healthy fishery viable. No, some BS science has done that and look were we are now....Like I've said in the past, my grand-kids will probably ask their parents "Did Grandpa really used to take people fishing".
SAD PEOPLE, VERY" SAD!!!!

Ron,
You know how much I respect you and couldn't agree more with your reply. But what now give up? Not sure I can sleep at night if we don't fight this shit

[dfish28]

How many states actually have access to saltwater fishing in there state? 20 maybe and some have very little shoreline at best...thats less than 50 percent at best. So why would said politician in other states be pro recreation or oppose commercial supply? I feel we are getting beat little by little so all the us can enjoy a grilled sea bass or stuffed flounder... Time to start deporting the dogfish inland!!! You want it. Come and get it!! Im with the ganging up thing...
Lets stop talking and start doing!!!! We set a date and spread the word alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll over and organize! Im ready.

Who else is in?

[RussA]

[QUOTE=dfish28;342236]How many states actually have access to saltwater fishing in there state? 20 maybe and some have very little shoreline at best...thats less than 50 percent at best. So why would said politician in other states be pro recreation or oppose commercial supply? I feel we are getting beat little by little so all the us can enjoy a grilled sea bass or stuffed flounder... Time to start deporting the dogfish inland!!! You want it. Come and get it!! Im with the ganging up thing...
Lets stop talking and start doing!!!! We set a date and spread the word alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll over and organize! Im ready.

Can you please tell me if the RFA is on-board with this? and what other groups?

[tautog]

Meetings don't matter. Only thing that matters is money. Start a 100 million dollar fishing PAC and hire connected Washington lobbyists and the limits will liberalize within 3 years.

[1captainron]

Originally Posted by tautog

Meetings don't matter. Only thing that matters is money. Start a 100 million dollar fishing PAC and hire connected Washington lobbyists and the limits will liberalize within 3 years.

BINGO!!!! We have a winner. As the old saying goes, "Money talks and Bullshit walks", so true.