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[Capt. Debbie]

Let's get past hystronics and flawed logic to reality.

A LNG pipe line can not expode. #1 LNG will NOT BURN. Of course you knew that- right. #2 Even if someone drills a hole in it ... what exactly what will ignite the Liquid when it cools to gas state under the water? Pilot-light fish? And will there be LNG in the pipe when this happens? Remember a ship must be unloading for that to happen.

The pipe line is used to UNLOAD ships. This is not the Trans-alaska pipe line or TRANSCO. It's not a steady flow. It's a use(unload ship) and shut it down. There's NOTHING in them when a ship is not unloading!

Let's talk about nuclear power while we talk about fracking. They both have the same relevance to this pipe line.

Originally Posted by Pride Fishing Tackle

Pulltaug,

I respect you as a fellow fishermen but common sense and logic are things your argument is lacking. Pipelines can explode right and accidents do happen? Just ask the towns folks up in Canada that didn't get blown up by a run away train but why would you care you live in the states. Fracking pollutes but your basically saying since you don't live near it then its ok with you. According to No Limit not one well has EVER been polluted by fracking. You sure, I guess the oil company sent someone out tocheck EVERY well in the US. I guess Cuz is making up what he witnessed personally in PA? What about our fellow fishermen who's streams, lakes and rivers have been polluted by fracking. What about the watershed? I guess you don't have a problem with little Sally drinking tainted water. According to you fracking doesn't pollute and another gentlemen thinks oil rigs are great natural fish structure, except when they blow up and millions upon millions of gallons flow into the ocean. I am sure the folks in Louisiana were psyched when that thing blew up and I am sure BP made everything right with folks that lost there livelihoods and took care of the families that lost loved ones. Can you please look into your crystal ball and tell me tonight's winning lottery numbers? I assume you have one because you are predicting there will not be another superstorm in our life time. That's what people said about that nasty storm that hit 20 years ago, what was it called a 100 year storm. I hope your right but when one hits when I am dead and gone then I guess my kids will have to clean up the mess. Makes perfect sense to me and a logical argument. Please send me the GPS numbers to your favorite togging spot and I will forward those numbers to the folks at LNG and have them set up the station there. I am sure that will be fine by you as then you can just tie up to the pipeline. They will welcome you with open arms and maybe give you a hot cup coffee.

At the end of day, I am a fishermen not a scientist. All I ask is that people and our elected officials use a little common sense when making an argument or decision in life. This project makes no sense to me and that's why I am against it.

[CatchEmUp]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

Pride,

Somebody needs to do some homework.

1) There is not one single case of fracking fluid ever contaminating a single well. Yes, there are nasty pictures of stuff in peoples wells but that is what you get when you drill a well where gas and oil have been in shallow deposits for millions of years.

2) Natural gas and oil seep to the surface and seabed in thousands of places and have been doing so for millions of years. Each year these natural seeps leak more into the environment than all the drilling spills put together from day one. The stuff actually degrades into fertilizer over time

3) Drilling rigs and offshore stations actually have a net benefit to wildlife - its like any other bottom structure that harbors life as opposed to open bottom which is largely lifeless.

4) This state above all others needs more industry - not less.
That means paychecks for residents and tax receipts for the state. We cant even afford to light our highways anymore. It is insane to continue to stop every project because of hypothetical fear mongering.

Probably the most misinformed, inaccurate posts I have ever read on this site. Either you work for one of these companies or you're getting paid by them.

[CatchEmUp]

Originally Posted by Capt. Frank

Let's get past hystronics and flawed logic to reality.

A LNG pipe line can not expode. #1 LNG will NOT BURN. Of course you knew that- right. #2 Even if someone drills a hole in it ... what exactly what will ignite the Liquid when it cools to gas state under the water? Pilot-light fish? And will there be LNG in the pipe when this happens? Remember a ship must be unloading for that to happen.

Just to put that statement into some context - diesel fuel/No. 2 fuel oil doesn't burn when you put a match to it either. You can pour a glass of it & drop a lit cigarette right in & that cig will go out every time. That doesn't mean it's not hazardous & won't do any harm when it's released into the environment.

[Icfos]

Build it!

[bigchefguy710]

Originally Posted by pulltaug

While oil rigs are different from nat gas. The means of getting the oil and LNG on land is the same. It's a pipeline. And there will be no rigs off the coast. So that's a plus. Ask the people in North Dakota if they mind the nat gas pipeline or drilling there. They've made millions and towns that were once belly up are thriving. People all over the country are moving there to make tons of money. It's an economic boom. I don't know anyone who lives 20 miles out at sea so I don't really think its going to hurt quality of life...only improve it.
It's not about drill baby drill but pump baby pump!

Ha my wife said the same thing when we were trying to have our son pump baby pump. Lol