Another dead whale

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by Blind Squirrel

Read the Bloomberg-Yahoo! article you cited. It says pretty much the exact opposite of what you're claiming, e.g. "German officials have said the revival of coal-burning is an emergency measure—needed to prevent electricity shortages and further price increases [resulting from the Russia/Ukraine crisis]—while the government accelerates longer term investments in wind and solar power and secures substitute gas supplies from the Middle East."

Of course they are going to point fingers. But if the crisis was caused by the lack of Russian gas, why didnt Germany ramp up solar and wind? Why did they ramp up coal? The answer is that wind and solar does not pay for itself. It requires too much in subsidies.

[shresearchdude]

Dales....I admire your attempt.
The latest news. Not a complete report yet - some indications of cause of death and more to be analyzed.

"The whale was an approximately 35-foot female. It was identified by Gotham Whale as NYC 0298 and was first seen feeding in the area on January 7, 2023. This was the first and only time this whale was documented.

The animal was in a state of advanced decomposition, which limited the necropsy. However, tissue samples were taken and will be sent out for analysis. The whale was in good body condition and there were no obvious signs of external trauma. However, the internal examination showed evidence of vessel strike. There is not always obvious external evidence of vessel strikes, which is why internal exams are important. The results of the tissue analysis will help us determine if the vessel strike occurred before or after death. "

Source:
https://mmsc.org/blog/f/update-on-ma...hale-stranding

[Blind Squirrel]

Originally Posted by togzilla

There goes Blind Sheep again posting so called facts from bias liberal news sources! So nice to have trolls on this site.

My "so called facts" are from the "bias[ed] liberal news sources" I cited in my post. Instead of making unfounded assumptions, please feel free to click the link I provided...
See the sources for this fact-check

[Blind Squirrel]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

Of course they are going to point fingers. But if the crisis was caused by the lack of Russian gas, why didnt Germany ramp up solar and wind? Why did they ramp up coal? The answer is that wind and solar does not pay for itself. It requires too much in subsidies.

This isn't about finger-pointing. The Bloomberg-Yahoo! article you cited clearly states that Germany ramped up coal-burning as "an emergency measure" to compensate for the sudden loss of Russian fossil fuels "while the government accelerates longer term investments in wind and solar power and secures substitute gas supplies from the Middle East." Existing coal & natural gas-based infrastructure can quickly adapt to coal & gas from other sources, but wind & solar build-out has a considerably longer timeline.
If you're trying to make the (untenable) case that renewable energy "does not pay for itself [and] requires too much in subsidies," you definitely picked the wrong article.

[Gumada]

Originally Posted by shresearchdude

Dales....I admire your attempt.
The latest news. Not a complete report yet - some indications of cause of death and more to be analyzed.

"The whale was an approximately 35-foot female. It was identified by Gotham Whale as NYC 0298 and was first seen feeding in the area on January 7, 2023. This was the first and only time this whale was documented.

The animal was in a state of advanced decomposition, which limited the necropsy. However, tissue samples were taken and will be sent out for analysis. The whale was in good body condition and there were no obvious signs of external trauma. However, the internal examination showed evidence of vessel strike. There is not always obvious external evidence of vessel strikes, which is why internal exams are important. The results of the tissue analysis will help us determine if the vessel strike occurred before or after death. "

Source:
https://mmsc.org/blog/f/update-on-ma...hale-stranding

Appreciate the quote, however finding whether the whale was struck before or after death based on the condition of the carcass is next to impossible. Additionally the inner ears of the whale are NOT being examined at all ! Even temporary loss of hearing increases the chance of a whale not being able to avoid a ship strike...

[dales529]

Originally Posted by AndrewT

People don’t have issues with science itself it’s that they don’t trust the government these days and who can blame them? These past three years have opened a lot of eyes

People don't trust the government what a shock. The past 3 years LOL I think you are missing the boat by approx: 240 years. While technology grows in leaps and bounds people remain lazy and uninformed because its easier to believe almost anything immediately than wait for the proper research. Not just talking whales here!

[AndrewT]

Originally Posted by dales529

People don't trust the government what a shock. The past 3 years LOL I think you are missing the boat by approx: 240 years. While technology grows in leaps and bounds people remain lazy and uninformed because its easier to believe almost anything immediately than wait for the proper research. Not just talking whales here!

You mean like all the "proper research" on the covid vaccine that was done immediately that turned out to be a load of crapola?

[bunker dunker]

so now we can fight amongst ourselves about something we have no control over.we should have some sort of control over what happens but sadly that seems to be a thing of the past.like everything else we will never really know
because now it has become political.instead of letting the public know about the
pro's and cons they simply add up the collateral damages and as long as it fits
then so be it.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by AndrewT

You mean like all the "proper research" on the covid vaccine that was done immediately that turned out to be a load of crapola?

Not sure where you are headed there. An unprecedented pandemic across 2 Administrations that tried to adapt on the fly. Science involved as quickly as possible not all right but best information at the time. Then came bleach and UV light in the last admin vs the vaccine LOL. looks to me like the vaccine saved a lot of lives and credit to the last admin for pushing manufacture regardless of saying above.

I lost a good friends son at 35 yrs old because he refused to get vaccinated due to possible fertility issues and is now DEAD. My daughters best friend is a oncology / cancer nurse who sent many families tablet goodbyes from there loved ones of all ages and many in good health and she will never be the same. Most begged for the vaccine before they went on the ventillator.

My friend in construction in NYC said he ran into warehouses of body bags at the height of it and puked everyday he went to work.

So whats your point exactly? I believe the science more than the last 6 years of government on this Covid issue. Time will tell on the whales.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

so now we can fight amongst ourselves about something we have no control over.we should have some sort of control over what happens but sadly that seems to be a thing of the past.like everything else we will never really know
because now it has become political.instead of letting the public know about the
pro's and cons they simply add up the collateral damages and as long as it fits
then so be it.

sad but true