Dead Whales?

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by shresearchdude

More facts from the Marine Mammal Stranding Center in reference to Jan 12 stranded animal.

Marine Mammal Stranding Center
22h ·
More than 36 people, including about 25 stranding network members from MMSC, AMCS, Mystic Aquarium, and MERR Institute, were on hand this morning to conduct a necropsy on the humpback whale that washed up on the North End Natural Area in Brigantine on Thursday, January 12, 2023. The response was led by Sheila Dean and Michele Pagel of MMSC. The necropsy team, led by Kim Durham of AMCS, was able to obtain the necessary samples of tissues and organs for further laboratory testing.
The whale was a female 32 feet 7 inches long, estimated to weigh about 12 tons.
Preliminary results based on observations during the necropsy suggest that the whale suffered blunt trauma injuries consistent with those from a vessel strike. Injuries and hemorrhaging were observed on the head and thoracic region, as well as along the right side and the pectoral flipper. These findings will be confirmed through laboratory analysis in the coming weeks. Blubber thickness indicated that the whale was in good condition. The whale’s stomach was full of partially digested fish and there was fecal matter in the intestines, indicating the whale had been actively feeding prior to these injuries.

From another referenced published paper, it showed that active Navy sonar changed the feeding behavior of some whales.
So, if in the necropsy there was fresh food, then there may not have been active sonar that prohibited the animals from feeding (prior to the mortality).
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2114932119

https://www.facebook.com/njmarinemammal/

What do you mean "more facts". It is actually more "cover up". Where is the autopsy of the other whales? And do you really think for a minute that a whale can die from "blunt trauma" by the blow hole? They invented that because there was no prop marks. I mean do they expect us to believe that something weighing several tons came out of nowhere and hit it? If a boat hit it fast enough to cause trauma, it was fast enough for the props to have raked it.

[AndrewT]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

If a boat hit it fast enough to cause trauma, it was fast enough for the props to have raked it.

Excellent point

[Pennsy Guy]

Could it be that the survey vessel Fugro Enterprise was the cause of the blunt force trauma observed in the whales? Maybe caused when actively seismic scanning. A person can be in a car accident and die days later from injuries. Just a thought.....

[shresearchdude]

I just did a search, and these came up. Yet there's no such evidence that any wind energy survey activity was going on. Most of the animals didn't even get past the bow of these ships so I would imagine there's no prop marks.



https://nypost.com/2017/08/10/cruise...ing-in-alaska/

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...arbor/1375809/

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32170391

https://www.newsweek.com/mizushima-w...strike-1632925

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-50956780

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ralian-warship

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-ship-new-york

[togzilla]

Originally Posted by shresearchdude

I just did a search, and these came up. Yet there's no such evidence that any wind energy survey activity was going on. Most of the animals didn't even get past the bow of these ships so I would imagine there's no prop marks.



https://nypost.com/2017/08/10/cruise...ing-in-alaska/

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...arbor/1375809/

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32170391

https://www.newsweek.com/mizushima-w...strike-1632925

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-50956780

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ralian-warship

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-ship-new-york

Well then the obvious answer is to put a speed restriction on all size boats from Maine to FL form Jan. 1st to Dec. 31st at a speed limit of 3 knots out to 1,000 nautical miles. That will save 1 or 2 whales as we completely destroy the commercial and recreational fishing industry and create massive job losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in lost economic revenue. Can someone remind me again of how a few whales can be prioritized over the economic losses of jobs and hundreds of million of dollars in economic value? Oh wait, I'm sure the revenue will be made up from a few whale watching boat rides, right? I'm all for protecting right whales but within reason and with honest facts about the percentage of whales killed by vessels from 35 to 65 feet as opposed to larger vessels, and commercial fishing lines and lobster pot lines. All replies welcome except from liberal trolls.

[tautog]

Prior Navy studies showed brain hemorrhaging and decompression sickness in marine mammals due to sonar exposure.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...017.00295/full

[Pennsy Guy]

Originally Posted by togzilla

Well then the obvious answer is to put a speed restriction on all size boats from Maine to FL form Jan. 1st to Dec. 31st at a speed limit of 3 knots out to 1,000 nautical miles. That will save 1 or 2 whales as we completely destroy the commercial and recreational fishing industry and create massive job losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in lost economic revenue. Can someone remind me again of how a few whales can be prioritized over the economic losses of jobs and hundreds of million of dollars in economic value? Oh wait, I'm sure the revenue will be made up from a few whale watching boat rides, right? I'm all for protecting right whales but within reason and with honest facts about the percentage of whales killed by vessels from 35 to 65 feet as opposed to larger vessels, and commercial fishing lines and lobster pot lines. All replies welcome except from liberal trolls.

Tog, better make that speed restriction world-wide Of shresearchdude's posted items, two West coast, one East coast; the rest (5) were all foreign port reported and vessels football field length, at least.....
Let the U.S. initiate restrictions, the rest of the fishing world will follow suit...just look at Japan's limit of 50 whales killed for "research"...pen roundup tuna fishing, the Mediterranean Bluefin fishery...and on and on and on.....just sayin...

[Capt Sal]

It is still Government and we all know "They tell us everything and never lie''.

[Gumada]

Originally Posted by shresearchdude

I just did a search, and these came up. Yet there's no such evidence that any wind energy survey activity was going on. Most of the animals didn't even get past the bow of these ships so I would imagine there's no prop marks.



https://nypost.com/2017/08/10/cruise...ing-in-alaska/

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...arbor/1375809/

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32170391

https://www.newsweek.com/mizushima-w...strike-1632925

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-50956780

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ralian-warship

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-ship-new-york

If they aren’t surveying I guess they’re lost ?

[Capt Sal]

"AND" We can only speculate????? Transparency Does not exist in our Government!!!! At least kiss me first??? Read between the lines snowflakes LOL