Want to live on Sandy Hook ?

[damnyankee]

I just don't understand why everything is a bad thing...just go fishing and be happy, life is good if you let it be!

[Jigman13]

Originally Posted by bulletbob

Makes no sense to me..
You can only sink the foundations so deep... Sooner or later, a very angry sea will be lapping on those billion dollar walls,,, Might be 30 years after the residents are in place, or 3 days.. However it WILL happen... Who pays when the building are washed into the sea, or are simply destroyed in place needing a total rebuild?.

The town of Montauk is struggling with this right now. The beachfront hotels and businesses are close to being gobbled up by the mighty Atlantic. They want funds from township, county, state and likely federal to aid in moving it all back, eliminating their existing septic systems and converting to proper sewer systems. Only a matter of time before the hotels/motels & businesses along the beach are no longer viable...

Luxury buildings on the Hook will only see the same fate. Leave it be. While the old decrepit buildings are just that, they are also historical. Let them diminish with history. Should they demo the Montauk Lighthouse and erect a luxury condo building? Nope...

I'm with you BB, its not a matter of negativity--look at the obvious optics.

[damnyankee]

I am wondering if there is anything positive at all, even the slightest thing, about this development? Can anyone that's said that it is a bad offer any other point of view?

[reason162]

Originally Posted by damnyankee

I just don't understand why everything is a bad thing...

Not everything is a bad thing - bad things are bad things. Privatizing Sandy Hook would be a terrible thing.

Are you an interested party to this deal?

[damnyankee]

lol not at all, i'm wondering why there is so many things folks on this board like to point out are bad, and that everything is absolute, it's either all good or all bad, yet they mostly point out negative things. It's really sad to be honest, everyone seems so unhappy. I want to spend most of my time looking at how things are good and discuss how to make bad things better. Seems like a big pity party to me and makes the entire board a negative Nancy refuge

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by damnyankee

lol not at all, i'm wondering why there is so many things folks on this board like to point out are bad, and that everything is absolute, it's either all good or all bad, yet they mostly point out negative things. It's really sad to be honest, everyone seems so unhappy. I want to spend most of my time looking at how things are good and discuss how to make bad things better. Seems like a big pity party to me and makes the entire there board a negative Nancy refuge

Look I don't even live in NJ.. However I grew up there, and recall open space everywhere, and wonderful access to all the tidal rivers, to the ocean and bay beaches, salt marshes etc... It has become an absolute disaster, where its getting next to impossible to go walking along a bay or river a few hundred yards without trespassing... People living on top of one another, massive traffic all hours,, and you want MORE of this???... The last thing NJ needs is more development especially on land that borders tide water... bob

[Fishguy1]

Originally Posted by damnyankee

I am wondering if there is anything positive at all, even the slightest thing, about this development? Can anyone that's said that it is a bad offer any other point of view?

It's a National Park. Letting people live in Officers Row may seem insignificant but what about condos in Yosemite Valley? McMansions on the rim of the Grand Canyon? How about a Waffle House right next to Old Faithful?
The whole point of the National Park system that Teddy Roosevelt and John Muir helped create was to prevent the inevitable ugliness of human kinds' intrusion into and development of the natural world. Everywhere people are allowed to they almost always make it a f***ing mess. Ask any old timer from just about anywhere on the planet and they'll surely say something about how it was less developed, less populated, less polluted and more naturally beautiful than it is now.
Those wise people had the foresight to create the model of a National Park system that has ben copied the world over, from Costa Rica to Africa to Australia. People understood the inherent value of unspoiled nature and the beauty of the natural world. To preserve it for future generations was a monumental achievement considering the Western Worlds mindset regarding nature. Something to be conquered, dominated and exploited. The National Parks are a treasure for everyone to be enjoyed for generations to come. Giving in to commercial interests, even in the tiniest way (like developers in Officers Row), invites the greed and wanton destruction of nature and natural places that we've seen the world over for hundreds of years. F*** that.

[BigRock44]

Originally Posted by damnyankee

lol not at all, i'm wondering why there is so many things folks on this board like to point out are bad, and that everything is absolute, it's either all good or all bad, yet they mostly point out negative things. It's really sad to be honest, everyone seems so unhappy. I want to spend most of my time looking at how things are good and discuss how to make bad things better. Seems like a big pity party to me and makes the entire board a negative Nancy refuge

pity party? good lord are you kidding me? sandy hook is the gem of the area! no pity party here - these are real concerns from intelligent people about PUBLIC LAND that soon (and for the right price) could become someone else's personal property where you and i are not welcome any more. that should imo (and certainly does!) make many people upset and lose faith in government. and rightfully so.
most of the responders on this thread, me included, i'm sure are happy folks and enjoy life. but sometimes ya gotta know when to take off the rose colored glasses.

[Irish Jigger]

Good luck going to grab milk or some beer on a weekend lol. That's a 2 hour trip, or they will put up a Wawa.

[reason162]

Originally Posted by damnyankee

I want to spend most of my time looking at how things are good and discuss how to make bad things better.

Ok let me break it down for you:

National Parks - good.

Privatizing national parks - BAD.

How to make bad things better? Leave Sandy Hook the F alone.