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![]() No that would be Bronx/Queens, 225 miles from here.. You couldn't get me to live there with a gun to my head..
It IS however close to some great saltwater fishing so there's that as some redeeming value.. There's a good chance someone with her belief system would not want a salt water license, opting instead to simply shut recreational fishing down completely.. Thats a stretch right now, but it won't be long until we see more of that mindset if we keep electing lunatics... bob |
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![]() Very controversial subject and always will be. Right now, enforcement efforts for the entire state are pretty much funded by freshwater fishing licenses and fines. F&G personnel can't cover the entire state fresh and salt with the limited resources they have to work with. Teritories are insane. Growing up I was always against a salt water license but as I've gotten older (not necessarily smarter) my views have changed. Like others have mentioned, if a salt water license is mandated and the funds aren't earmarked for their intended use, then it serves no real value involving beefed up enforcement efforts. And there's sufficient history with taxes or state and federal revenue generation in general (sales tax, lotteries, casinos, gasoline, cigarettes etc) all these billions of dollars were going to subsidize education and tuition costs, property taxes, infrastructure, healtcare etc. and I'm not sure if or how they've had an impact on any one of those individually since they're still completely out of control especially property taxes in this state and education costs in general. At the same time, if we don't increase enforcement, regulations can't be upheld as there's simply not enough resources based on the geographic range we're talking about. Personally I believe there's other matters which need to be changed. Significantly heavier fines, incarceration, confiscating equipment including boats and equipment etc. of the violators and auctioning them off to help subsidize enforcement. The fines are way too liberal to change behavior and currently the rewards associated with breaking the law heavily outweigh the risks. That has to change before behavior does. There's no easy answer here but status quo in my opinion delivers a worse fate.
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![]() I'm ok with a combo license so long as funds go towards enforcement of regs and not towards the pockets of slimy politicians. Flat $40/yr resident fresh & salt water license. Easy peasy!
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![]() Open car window and let a pair of $20’s fly out. Is easy 4 you, is deeficullt 4 me!
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![]() You don't need a freshwater license if you're over 70. How about this one.
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![]() Florida has a interesting perspective when it comes to the senior side of a lic.. Now granted no fee is involved but they want you to still register as if you were to pay for a lic.. There is no fee but the numbers add up to a larger number of fisherman which translate to fed funding increase based on numbers. The greater the number the greater the matching funding.
With Florida we also get free to minimum fee ramp use from this lic.. The fisheries management is great here, we just got 20k redfish stocked, my lic fee hasn’t increased. We have FWC always out looking and checking. This was tried years ago in Nj to get a lic going and it was shot down. They had ramp locations ready to go away for the fee town/private owned. Here the largest amount I’ve paid to use a ramp is $2.00. Put your demands on the table, don’t instantly say no. Demand specific items. Demand access, demand free fee use of ramps. The Ramps here are multi-space ones, you could launch 3,4,6 boats at a time. Lots are free parking, garbage cans are available. Not this carry out what you bring in, your dollars cover this cost. We know there are those that bring in and throw around their garbage, never to carry it out. You can fish and access the water from bridges, any piece of land open to the public. Just pull over on the grass and launch a kayak or fish. |
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![]() I already pay $30+ for freshwater plus a trout stamp. And I don't even really trout fish anymore, nor do I keep them. What's a few more dollars to support more conservation officers and other positives for the fishing community on the salt side too? I do both in NJ throughout the year. The freshwater fisheries management in NJ is phenomenal compared to our neighboring states. I like to believe my small contribution via annual license purchase helps. A few more sheckles to better the saltwater management cant hurt so long as the funds go where they're supposed to. Def not opening a window and letting my hard earned money fly out that's for sure.
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![]() Quote:
I live in deland but work all over the state driving airboats. Deland is 20 minutes south I’d Daytona. Living the dream
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Captain Shrimpy 100 ton master captain Last edited by shrimpman steve; 03-02-2019 at 04:17 PM.. |
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![]() I was never in favor of a saltwater licence when I lived in NJ.Retired and moved to Virginia three years ago.The licence is $17.50 a year,65 and older free. I don't mind paying it since we have free ramps and a dedicated marine police force plus I became a fish tagger and they pay for all my supplies.Also I got to enjoy a Feb. seabass season and fluke is 4 fish @16.5" with no closed season.
My property tax is $1,100 on a home twice as big as the one I had in NJ that I was paying $6,500. |
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![]() Money is not the issue, $40 is not likley to change any of our lives here. To me, it’s the principal... We get taxed to death in this state already between state income and sales taxes, gas tax, sewer tax etc.... If they wanted to direct some of that to fishing they could... That and what about the person who ocattionally fishes..If he or she decides to go fishing one day, if they have to spend $40 to get a license they are less likely to go and I think that’s a shame.
I have no issues with Freshwater licenses since we propbably have one of the best stocking programs in the country and get some benefit. Not the case for saltwater...This state has enough of people’s money...
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Gerry Zagorski <>< Founder/Owner of NJFishing.com since 1997 Proud Supporter of Heroes on the Water NJFishing@aol.com Obsession 28 Carolina Classic Sandy Hook Area Last edited by Gerry Zagorski; 03-02-2019 at 05:50 PM.. |
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