Emergency Action on Blueline Tile

[Capt. Debbie]

Like the 10 bluefish rule. I hate rules but this is hardly the crap catch limits we get with NJ winter flounder.

Originally Posted by Dave A

How is that a good thing? There was NO rec bag limit and now we are reduced to 7 per trip. All based on a questionable stock assessment done by the South Atlantic Marine Fisheries Council in 2011 and conducted in the waters south of North Carolina. Meanwhile, in the Gulf of Mexico the rec bag limit is 20 per day not to exceed 40 per trip per person.

[Capt Sal]

What ever state a commercial vessel is registered in should be the only state they can off load. North Carolina boat coming here to fish federal waters up north? If a New York party boat is more than three miles off our coast they are in federal waters. There black fish season starts earlier than ours and there is nothing we can do about it. When they were in Jersey waters when our season was not open yet nothing was being done about it by our NJ Div of Fish and Game officers. Yea,the same guys that would check you at the dock because it is easier!
Makes me wonder if we are ever going to win one in the near future. We are so use to losing that we are almost willing to accept it. Could you just imagine spending your life savings on a off shore party boat and they hit you with a closure like this? Not exactly the best time to get into the for hire sport fishing scene! I have to give a lot of credit to the party and charter boat captains that keep fighting back and refuse to go out of business.

[PAMonger]

I don't see a big problem with it. Tilefish are slow to grow and reproduce. If you get more than 7 tilefish, you are having a phenomenal day and I hope you have one serious vacuum sealer.

[Joey Dah Fish]

Originally Posted by PAMonger

I don't see a big problem with it. Tilefish are slow to grow and reproduce. If you get more than 7 tilefish, you are having a phenomenal day and I hope you have one serious vacuum sealer.

Agreed but !!!! A big but!!! As Dave I and talked about some boats make a 2 day trip. Why not make it a per day total as opposed to a per trip total. These guys make long drives and are conserving fuel etc trying to give the anglers more hours of fishing better odds etc. I think this rule of per trip hurts them. After all it's not a hop skip and jump to the grounds.

[Capt Joe]

Party and Charter boat Captains must learn how to fill out their VTR properly!

[tautog]

all those VTRs are safely stored in the same warehouse as the Arc of the Covenant.

[Dave A]

Originally Posted by PAMonger

I don't see a big problem with it. Tilefish are slow to grow and reproduce. If you get more than 7 tilefish, you are having a phenomenal day and I hope you have one serious vacuum sealer.

We are talking about blueline tilefish. They average 5lbs, not much bigger then the offshore sea bass.

[Tunarun]

Originally Posted by PAMonger View Post
I don't see a big problem with it. Tilefish are slow to grow and reproduce. If you get more than 7 tilefish, you are having a phenomenal day and I hope you have one serious vacuum sealer.

Originally Posted by Dave A

We are talking about blueline tilefish. They average 5lbs, not much bigger then the offshore sea bass.

Thanks Dave, that was Perfect!! Dennis

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by PAMonger

I don't see a big problem with it. Tilefish are slow to grow and reproduce. If you get more than 7 tilefish, you are having a phenomenal day and I hope you have one serious vacuum sealer.

Offshore 100 miles and limited amount of people on the PB. Expensive and not for everyone. How can we recreational fisherman have an affect that would warrant a reduction like this? Sure isn't anything like fluking in the summer with the amount of angler participation. I started tile fishing in the early seventies with Capt. Lou Puskas on the Gracee 111 out of Barnegat with my dad . Great fishing and I believe there may have been more interest in Tile fishing years ago than today. I think you should do more home work on this subject IMHO. Would you go 80 mi. off shore and be happy with 10 sea bass and your done in one hour?

[Chico]

I think it is a good thing that they are regulating the commercial boats, we all know what happens when only $$$$$ is involved, greed takes over and it is easy for them to wipe out a fishery in no time. Making us pay for their greed is typical of todays "management". One bluelinetile caught by a rec fisherman, has a MUCH bigger financial return to our economy than when that fish is caught by a comm. Everyone from the local motels, eateries, tackle shops, bait and ice suppliers, charter/party boat owners, and their employees, as well as all the manufacturers of the fishing tackle we use all benefit when that tilefish is caught by a rec fisherman. For hire boats want to ensure that the fishery remains healthy for the benefit of their livelihood, commercial boats want to get as many fish in the boat as possible before another boat gets to them first. Just watch "Alaska Fish Wars" TV show and you see the mentality. Limits are not a bad thing, even for recs, but they must take into account firsts and foremost, the reality of fish stocks as well as financial impact on the local economies.