Swell, what swell?

[Reelman73088]

I was out on a NS out of PP yesterday and there was definitely a pretty good swell early in the morning. Had a few chummers on board due to it but I wouldn't say it was huge. It layed down late morning and turned out to be a real nice afternoon. Sandy Hook definitely provide some protection from a swell coming from the SE so it makes sense that the Raritan wouldn't be too bad.

[Njbillfish]

---i saw all the posts to this thread & went back to look it over. i had posted/commented early on the thread. i was taken back by the fact that a few had posted so negatively about my comments, saying that "i haven't a clue" & "i couldnt be serious with my comments!"
---now, this is a site for people with a common interest.... fishing. and i believe we all visit this site to hear about what is going on in the fishing community, share info & maybe learn a thing or two. there is no need for harsh criticisms of people's posts.
---and regarding my post.....i commented that with a long period groudswell (from a storm several hundred miles off our coast), that groundswell is much bigger to the south (ie manasquan) & smaller to the north (ie sandy hook or sea bright). this is a fact jack! it is related to the phenomenon of refraction. the north jersey coastline & western end of long island form "a sort of corner." with a long period swell, that swell (and its energy) is refracted as it works its way into that "corner" and up towards sandy hook (nj) & long beach (ny). ask anyone who surfs.... with a long period groundswell, the surf will be 12 ft in Seaside, 10 ft in Manasquan, 8 ft in asbury park, 6 ft in long branch & 3 ft in sandy hook. likewise the surf out east on long island in montauk will be big, 12 ft and that surf will get progressively smaller as you work your way back west on long island. all of this is related to refraction with a long period groundswell. this phenomenon doesnt happen so much with a short period windswell. now, to criticize me when you dont even understand this process is just silly.
---additionally, i never said that a long period ground swell made for a "rough ocean." with a long period swell, the swell is spread out and to boaters, this provides a very gentle up & down motion. comfortable conditions to fish in but it can be rather scary at the inlets with an outgoing tide & a large groundswell in the water.
---i am not looking to "bash" anyone, just looking to share some info.

[reason162]

Originally Posted by njbillfish

---i saw all the posts to this thread & went back to look it over. i had posted/commented early on the thread. i was taken back by the fact that a few had posted so negatively about my comments, saying that "i haven't a clue" & "i couldnt be serious with my comments!"
---now, this is a site for people with a common interest.... fishing. and i believe we all visit this site to hear about what is going on in the fishing community, share info & maybe learn a thing or two. there is no need for harsh criticisms of people's posts.
---and regarding my post.....i commented that with a long period groudswell (from a storm several hundred miles off our coast), that groundswell is much bigger to the south (ie manasquan) & smaller to the north (ie sandy hook or sea bright). this is a fact jack! it is related to the phenomenon of refraction. the north jersey coastline & western end of long island form "a sort of corner." with a long period swell, that swell (and its energy) is refracted as it works its way into that "corner" and up towards sandy hook (nj) & long beach (ny). ask anyone who surfs.... with a long period groundswell, the surf will be 12 ft in Seaside, 10 ft in Manasquan, 8 ft in asbury park, 6 ft in long branch & 3 ft in sandy hook. likewise the surf out east on long island in montauk will be big, 12 ft and that surf will get progressively smaller as you work your way back west on long island. all of this is related to refraction with a long period groundswell. this phenomenon doesnt happen so much with a short period windswell. now, to criticize me when you dont even understand this process is just silly.
---additionally, i never said that a long period ground swell made for a "rough ocean." with a long period swell, the swell is spread out and to boaters, this provides a very gentle up & down motion. comfortable conditions to fish in but it can be rather scary at the inlets with an outgoing tide & a large groundswell in the water.
---i am not looking to "bash" anyone, just looking to share some info.

Dude, you are confusing the issue with too many facts. Don't you know meteorology is practically Satanic on this site? God forbid anyone check the weather before going fishing. Much better to listen to a sponsor here if you want to know what's *really* going on with the wind and seas.

[rumster]

Originally Posted by reason162

Dude, you are confusing the issue with too many facts. Don't you know meteorology is practically Satanic on this site? God forbid anyone check the weather before going fishing. Much better to listen to a sponsor here if you want to know what's *really* going on with the wind and seas.

I agree with what you have said to a point, but regardless of who you are site sponsor or not that does not make anyone`s opinion more valid than someone else s. There is definitely a right way to make a point without being demeaning. Everyone, present company included, should lighten up at times. If you chase away the non sponsor/little guy a great site like this is not worth much. Just my opinion.