RFA Says Shared Recipe for Disaster Could Be No Fluke

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by Capt Sal Cathy Sea Charters

Four fluke and next year one striper?If this happens they win and the already starving for hire boats will be a thing of the past.We all say we will be pirates but this does not fix the problem.This was a long time coming and now we are all saying we need more public input.It is not over yet..I would say most of the people on this site are informed and up to date about what is going on with fisheries management.On the other hand you would be amazed how misinformed the average anglers are.Running a charter boat for years you meet new people everyday.One of the main things I hear is-Why doesn't NY and NJ get together and have the same bag limits.It is not that simple.NY would love that and so would i.These people out number the die hards and we also need them onboard.

I agree with you Sal.

If this is the case, what we should all do is encourage everyone to get the word out to the average angler and we need to specifically tell them what to do and where to send their letters if that is the tact we want to take...

We can do this here on this site and I can put a post up on my personal and the NJFIshing.com group facebook page leading them back to a specific post on NJfishing.com that we would create. We would encourage people to share the facebook post on their own facebook pages so it goes to their network of friends and hopefully it goes viral.

The biggest problem we face is getting the word out and then getting people to take action. IMHO what we need to do is:
- Get someone to explain in plain English what options we support and why to get people to buy in.
- Once you have their buy in we need to give them a simple means to send a pre formatted email to the people that are either making the decisions or influencing them.

I'm certainly willing to do what I can to facilitate this I can if someone can help me with the explanation in plan English I mentioned above, what we'd want the letters to say and whom to send them to.

[aduma1107]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

I agree with you Sal.

If this is the case, what we should all do is encourage everyone to get the word out to the average angler and we need to specifically tell them what to do and where to send their letters if that is the tact we want to take...

We can do this here on this site and I can put a post up on my personal and the NJFIshing.com group facebook page leading them back to a specific post on NJfishing.com that we would create. We would encourage people to share the facebook post on their own facebook pages so it goes to their network of friends and hopefully it goes viral.

The biggest problem we face is getting the word out and then getting people to take action. IMHO what we need to do is:
- Get someone to explain in plain English what options we support and why to get people to buy in.
- Once you have their buy in we need to give them a simple means to send a pre formatted email to the people that are either making the decisions or influencing them.

I'm certainly willing to do what I can to facilitate this I can if someone can help me with the explanation in plan English I mentioned above, what we'd want the letters to say and whom to send them to.

This is a great idea. Put in layman terms instead of copying and pasting a legal document no one reads.

[hartattack]

Gerry and all - here is my plain English eMail I sent to krootes-murdy@asmfc.org and comments@asmfc.org. The title/subject should be Draft Addendum XXV and the deadline for comments is 5 p.m. on January 24th. I constructed this simple Email based on Dales' suggestions in page 4 of this post http://www.njfishing.com/forums/show...t=66382&page=4

Please understand that NJ Fishermen have suffered considerably since Superstorm Sandy: destroyed docks, fewer boats, out-of-business party boats and tackle shops.

I feel that “Regional Management” of NJ’s fisheries would further hurt our shore economy and will drive those that persevered Sandy even further into debt. Please maintain NJ’s Status Quo and please consider Quota Sharing between states . . .Many thanks for your consideration,


I urge everyone who reads this to please take 5 minutes & send the emails. Heck, you're already on the computer

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

I agree with you Sal.

If this is the case, what we should all do is encourage everyone to get the word out to the average angler and we need to specifically tell them what to do and where to send their letters if that is the tact we want to take...

We can do this here on this site and I can put a post up on my personal and the NJFIshing.com group facebook page leading them back to a specific post on NJfishing.com that we would create. We would encourage people to share the facebook post on their own facebook pages so it goes to their network of friends and hopefully it goes viral.

The biggest problem we face is getting the word out and then getting people to take action. IMHO what we need to do is:
- Get someone to explain in plain English what options we support and why to get people to buy in.
- Once you have their buy in we need to give them a simple means to send a pre formatted email to the people that are either making the decisions or influencing them.

I'm certainly willing to do what I can to facilitate this I can if someone can help me with the explanation in plan English I mentioned above, what we'd want the letters to say and whom to send them to.

The first thing we have to stress is the DEC in NY and the NJ Div. Of Fish and Game do NOT SET BAG LIMITS!!We pick our best options given to us by fishery management known as the Federal Government.Inside our three mile line might be state waters but in reality they control that also.

[RussA]

Originally Posted by dales529

SUMMER FLOUNDER REGIONALIZATION

A SHARED RECIPE FOR DISASTER


January 16, 2014 -



RFA said the overall problem in the recreational community is that anglers and business owners don't often get active in protest and reform efforts until the pendulum swings in the opposite direction.



"It's time for everybody in all the states and all the groups to get on the same page and call for Magnuson reform," Donofrio said, adding "this hurray for me, I don't care about you attitude is killing our industry and destroying our opportunity for change."

So why does your organization not start working with a NY organization or is this just another talking point and smoke and mirrors?

Because I fish on NJ party Boats and all I hear are captains saying screw NY let them get fish from somewhere else and you are their voices so that would mean you feel the same way.

Where can I find verbiage of your olive branch (trying to reach out) that was extended to any state that you wanted to work together against the regulators?

[Irish Jigger]

72 Days til April!!

[Detour66]

Nothing can be achieved without mass organization! There are millions of fisherman and we have the power to vote....spend money and protest. What is needed isn't a mid-week protest when most are working but a weekend protest's on the local...state and federal level. We must be relentless! If other special interest groups can get laws changed why cant we? Who will be the leader of such a movement? There are plenty of organizations out there that people donate money to that although they are fighting the good fight ....are not doing enough in MHO! Time to get serious people....or say goodbye to a way of life and a right!