The Cost Of Not Having A New Jersey Salt Water License

[1captainron]

Like to see them run this through NY!!!
While, as those guys with their piss ass attitude are looking in your engine room, rummaging through customers lunch boxes and ladies pocket books searching for illegal fillets or a piece of Fluke bellie that you used for bait, I want to make sure I have my Special Decal to show support!!

Maybe they could make the decal similar to the Swastika, that would get some attention....

[JIMMY L]

Just who is this Kensdock anyway,who is he fronting for? Does he oppose everything RFA and SSSF support just to stir the pot? Do i detect the smell of PEW in the background?

[Kensdock]

If, New Jersey had a salt water license it would make it possible for New Jersey to apply and receive the stimulus money that is available. Look at Florida!!

Source: Brett Boston of the Wildlife Foundation of Florida
Excerpt:
A proposal to secure almost $150 million in funding for this effort has been submitted to Congress, as well as to Gov. Charlie Crist’s office.

The money requested would come from Obama’s stimulus package through the state Legislature.


“We did our homework and we’re ready for this money,”


A free salt water registry will do NOTHING to improve fishing!!

[PBangler]

Kensdock,

Why do you claim Florida’s SWL was a prerequisite for the enactment of the Florida Marine Fisheries Enhancement Initiative (FMFEI)?

The FMFEI is coalition of public and private organizations lead by the Wildlife Foundation of Florida, a public non-profit 501(c)(3).

The FMFEI is not only seeking federal stimulus funds, but private and corporate donations of money and land as well.

Please explain the connection between the Initiative and Florida having a SWL. Thanks

[Kensdock]

The salt water license is the part of the plan that provides the funding to run the hatchery once construction is complete. Without the ability to fund daily operations they will not allocate one cent.

[PBangler]

Originally Posted by Kensdock

The salt water license is the part of the plan that provides the funding to run the hatchery once construction is complete. Without the ability to fund daily operations they will not allocate one cent.

First of all it's not one hatchery, the proposal is for 7 hatcheries in the State of FL.

Second, I can find no evidence to back up your assertion that FL's SWL will fund the running of these hatcheries.

Please point me in the direction of where you found this information.

[Kensdock]

Originally Posted by PBangler

First of all it's not one hatchery, the proposal is for 7 hatcheries in the State of FL.

Second, I can find no evidence to back up your assertion that FL's SWL will fund the running of these hatcheries.

Please point me in the direction of where you found this information.

You missed my point. I am well aware that they plan on building 7 saltwater hatcheries. I am also well aware that NJ needs a saltwater license to make the hatcheries and the jobs and benefits they bring a reality here in NJ.

Through my knowledge and experience I have found that anytime a grant or stimulus money is applied for from the federal government to build a wind mill farm, power plant or saltwater hatchery ect. a source of funding the operation of the facility most be identified. The NJ salt water license would qualify as a source of funding. So would the state of NJ but with a budget defect in the billions that is not a even a remote possibility.

[Kensdock]

Some people will be unable to assimilate this information but for the people that do, they will have a better understanding as to why a saltwater license is a good investment in the future of saltwater fishing.

It is true that the Governor of Virginia or New Jersey can cut the contribution from the general fund to any department. In NJ, the contribution from the general fund is miniscule in comparison to the funds that would be raised by a NJ saltwater license. You can bet that the contribution will be less next year in light of the billion dollar deficit the State of NJ is facing. The saltwater license should raise about 40 million dollars, if the state contributes 1 million from the general fund they can cut the 1 million,they can not touch the 40 million. Do the math.
This will leave the saltwater anglers of New Jersey way ahead. It will give Fish and game the ability to successfully manage our saltwater fish. It will also make it possible to take a proactive approach to improving our saltwater fishing in NJ.

As far as the Governor of Virginia taking 300,000 dollars from the hunting and fishing license fund, the $300,000 dollars will cost the state millions, as it will be forced to return millions of dollars of the excise tax refund to the federal Government. Many governors have removed money from fishing and hunting dedicated funds only to return them after the realization of the ramifications of stealing the funds.


As many of you know NJ has not stolen any money from the dedicated hunting and fresh water fishing fund since its inception over one hundred years ago.

[Kensdock]

The party boat and charter boat organization is missing the opportunity to be involved in the saltwater license bill.They also are risking the position of leverage they hold at this time.

They could use the position to demand the following in exchange for supporting a salt water license:

Make the charter and party boat industry limited entry.

A free license to party boat and charter for the first five years

The size limit for flounder a half inch shorter on p&c boats

Increase the requirements to operate example: pass a test that indicates you have the knowledge required to catch fish with a council made up of captains that make the final decision .

The ability to fish for flounder and seas bass during the closed season.

[PBangler]

Originally Posted by Kensdock

The party boat and charter boat organization is missing the opportunity to be involved in the saltwater license bill.They also are risking the position of leverage they hold at this time.

They could use the position to demand the following in exchange for supporting a salt water license:

Make the charter and party boat industry limited entry.

A free license to party boat and charter for the first five years

The size limit for flounder a half inch shorter on p&c boats

Increase the requirements to operate example: pass a test that indicates you have the knowledge required to catch fish with a council made up of captains that make the final decision .

The ability to fish for flounder and seas bass during the closed season.

As this goes on your posts become more and more preposterous. What does any of this have to do with a SWL? They could ask for that now if they wanted. What ... a blanket license fee is going to tip the scale in their favor. I guess if it costs them each a million bucks it might.

You've made a lot of claims in this thread. To name a few:

$40,000,000 will be the revenue from a NJ SWL license.

VA will lose millions of dollars for Govenor Kaine's action of cutting the general fund budget by $300,000 to the marine enforcement.

NJ SWL would qualify as a source of funding for daily operational costs of a SW hatchery built with federal stimulus funds.

Prove them all by pointing us to your source(s) of documentation supporting them.

If you can't, then your assertions are nothing more than useless propaganda.