Noaa 'champions' Another Closure

[Leif]

Originally Posted by penn50w

Subject: WW II Battleship sailor tells Obama to shape up or ship out!

This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii
for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes
all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body,
he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now.
He dictated this letter to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president.

Dear President Obama,

My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.
I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive the memories of 23 years of service to my country.
One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man. So here goes.
I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.
I can't figure out what country you are the president of.
You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:
" We're no longer a Christian nation"
" America is arrogant" - (Your wife even
announced to the world,"America is mean-
spirited. " Please tell her to try preaching
that nonsense to 23 generations of our
war dead buried all over the globe who
died for no other reason than to free a
whole lot of strangers from tyranny and
hopelessness.)

I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her ideals."

Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000 men died for in the Civil War? I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around, because we stand for freedom.

I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue. You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are, terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now, son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you're not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.

You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge ever presented to any president.

You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated economy. That's not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who we are as Americans is our big fight now.

And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this final battle.

Sincerely,

Harold B. Estes



When a 95 year old hero of the "the Greatest Generation"

stands up and speaks out like this, I think we owe it

to him to send his words to as many Americans as

we can.

I could care less about this usless propaganda targeted at the "mass ignorant" Good luck with the disrespect toward the President and administration. What is the goal?

Leif

[lingmasterleifson]

Originally Posted by broken bobber

OOOOOOOOOOOO You been WARNED.....

Warning #3

Don't mess with the Vikings.

little Leif

[penn50w]

Originally Posted by Leif

I could care less about this usless propaganda targeted at the "mass ignorant" Good luck with the disrespect toward the President and administration. What is the goal?

Leif

You want your fishing back to normal, you get rid of the head jerk and the current administration who are aligned with Peta and the like environmentalists that would shut it down. But right now, unless you are deaf, dumb and blind, fishing although important to us on here, is the least of this countries current worries. You should re-read what the 95 year old veteran told this president and think about it. Penn

[Kup]

It's not about Democrat or Republican. It's about goverment by bureacracy and NOAA is just one of many that are going to get into every corner of our lives including fishing, hunting, what car we drive and what temperature we keep our heat set at.

This administration has pushed and continues to push this forward but the previous administrations have done this too but not this fast.

[dales529]

One of many but certainly one of the largest issues at hand is getting the "Flexibility" Bill in the Magnuson Stevens Act passed. All the closures and regulations come about primarily in the name of the MSA and how its interpreted which has been going on for many years now and spanned both party lines and many administrations. Funny how this bill is supported by more democrats than republicans but again the PARTY lines on this issue are NOT the focus point.

The same can be said for Fishermen, we span both party lines and represent various political opinion but I hope we are on the same page when it comes to fighting for our rights as fishermen. If we make this a political "Party" issue we are doomed. Personally I will support every politician that supports and fights for this flexibility bill when I consider Fishing as the agenda. I will continue to have my own opinions on all the other issues the country faces as well and support those accordingly.


We have gone to great lengths to try and bring a "FISHERY" Management board to the site to discuss and debate "FISHERY ISSUES". While politics certainly play a huge role, this Forum is NOT the place for NON Fishing Political posts.

[privateer]

One can only hope it's temporary!

It's all biased, cooked and skewed data these Agencies are working with perpetrated by scientists and policy makers with vested interests. That's the truth and the real fight fisherman are up against.

The fight must carry on by us "peasants revolting" against this Administration and these Agencies to disprove these fish stock claims just like the lame global climate crisis policy makers had so many believing. Where's Al G. now?

Fight the good fight, speak up and the real truth will eventually prevail and win the war.