Another dead whale

[CODCHALY]

conjecture We'd still be in the Vietnam War. At some point, honesty will save the day. I have no Faith, Trust, in NOAA, and now EPA handling of Ohio Train derailment.
I'll be at the Rally. Thanks for notification.

[NoLimit]

Originally Posted by AndrewT

Agreed wholeheartedly. Although, the research should be done by independent scientists. Unfortunately, "science" is often hijacked and weaponized these days

You dont need to be a meteorologist to know which way the wind blows. The cause and effect is right there. There is a 100% correlation between the incidence of windmill construction and dead whales. If you dont think so, stop the construction for 6 mos and lets see what happens. We have waited 100 years to find an alternative to fuel power plants. We can wait another 6 months to stop this whale slaughter. And yes I am against the windmills. It is heavily subsidized by my hard earned taxpayer dollars and it has been a dismal failure in Germany and Texas where they went whole hog on it. Now Germany is burning more coal than ever! https://news.yahoo.com/village-stand...ycsrp_catchall

[Exit135]

Did you provide your comments and concerns during the NEPA EIS public comment period?

[dales529]

Its obviously concerning the amount of dead whales washing up on our NJ shores. Can not argue that the coincidence of wind farm/ sonar / pre construction doesn't play a role.

NOAA states Atlantic Coast 181 whale stranding's / deaths from 2016 to 2023 = 25 whale deaths per year. Block Island Wind was in 2016.

BUT: Court is still out on cause of each and every stranding's / deaths which are also happening in states without wind farms?

Sad that it ALWAYS has a political twist instead of science and an actual reason.
Most posts here are more politics than facts and I believe the science is not hijacked or weaponized but reduced to report for fear of fake news for either side.

Hate to see these magnificent creatures washing up like this but hope there are real answers not the political BS

[AndrewT]

Originally Posted by dales529

Most posts here are more politics than facts and I believe the science is not hijacked or weaponized but reduced to report for fear of fake news for either side.

Hate to see these magnificent creatures washing up like this but hope there are real answers not the political BS

You do realize the reason this issue is being politicized is because the head politician in our state has the authority to shut it down to do more studies but is refusing to. This issue is directly tied to politics.

[Blind Squirrel]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

And yes I am against the windmills. It is heavily subsidized by my hard earned taxpayer dollars and it has been a dismal failure in Germany and Texas where they went whole hog on it. https://news.yahoo.com/village-stand...ycsrp_catchall

The extremely lucrative fossil fuel industry is much more heavily subsidized by our hard-earned taxpayer dollars, and its destructive effects on our environment & the creatures living in it have been conclusively established by decades of sound scientific research, little to none of which exists linking recent marine mammal deaths to offshore wind turbine surveying, construction, and operation. If wind energy didn't provide a viable alternative to our reliance on coal, oil, & gas power generation, simple economics would've ended it years ago.
Here's an objective assessment of what we do and don't know about the whale strandings at this point...

Undersea sounds for wind farms killing whales off Jersey Shore? No evidence of that
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ales-jersey-s/
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
—The leading human causes of large-whale strandings are whales being struck by vessels or becoming entangled in fishing lines, experts have found.
—Experts at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and elsewhere said they see no evidence that undersea sounds emitted during survey work for the construction of wind farms is causing whale deaths off the Jersey Shore.
—Twelve New Jersey Shore mayors called for a moratorium on offshore wind energy activities. They asked for investigations to determine whether the work contributed to seven whales washing ashore in 38 days.
See the sources for this fact-check

[Blind Squirrel]

Originally Posted by NoLimit

And yes I am against the windmills. It is heavily subsidized by my hard earned taxpayer dollars and it has been a dismal failure in Germany and Texas where they went whole hog on it. Now Germany is burning more coal than ever! https://news.yahoo.com/village-stand...ycsrp_catchall

Read the Bloomberg-Yahoo! article you cited. It says pretty much the exact opposite of what you're claiming, e.g. "German officials have said the revival of coal-burning is an emergency measure—needed to prevent electricity shortages and further price increases [resulting from the Russia/Ukraine crisis]—while the government accelerates longer term investments in wind and solar power and secures substitute gas supplies from the Middle East."

[dales529]

Originally Posted by AndrewT

You do realize the reason this issue is being politicized is because the head politician in our state has the authority to shut it down to do more studies but is refusing to. This issue is directly tied to politics.

Of course I realize that. What's not OK is the ignorant bashing of opinions on here simply because its one political party theory or another. When science is trashed because of politics its a slippery slope.
I fully agree an independent study should be done and a stoppage of wind farms in NJ until some evidence is provided.

[AndrewT]

Originally Posted by dales529

Of course I realize that. What's not OK is the ignorant bashing of opinions on here simply because its one political party theory or another. When science is trashed because of politics its a slippery slope.
I fully agree an independent study should be done and a stoppage of wind farms in NJ until some evidence is provided.

People don’t have issues with science itself it’s that they don’t trust the government these days and who can blame them? These past three years have opened a lot of eyes

[togzilla]

There goes Blind Sheep again posting so called facts from bias liberal news sources! So nice to have trolls on this site.