Fluke Discussions

[foggy notion]

According to my calculator, I tend to spend between $100 and $125 when I use a party boat to catch fluke. This includes party boat fare, lunch, drinks, tip for mate, and fuel for the car. For this total amount, I can keep (2) fluke in the 17.0-17.99 inch range plus one over 18 inches. Normally, the fillets from a fluke equate to 1/3 the live weight of the fluke. Suppose I'm skilled and catch (3) 20 inch fluke. According to the rules, I have to retain only one fluke of the (3) I landed. So for my $100-$125 investment, I might walk off the boat with about one pound of fluke fillets. My local supermarket is selling "somewhat" fresh fluke for $20,00 per pound. My question therefore is.....is the preceding a wise use of my money?

[togzilla]

Originally Posted by june181901

Skolmann: My only point is that there is absolutely no reason to mention anyone's physical appearance especially in discussing fish. Had thought that was all left behind by the 6th or 7th grade.

Obviously you lean left and are part of the "woke" society. Keep living in "La La Land" and avoiding basic common sense.

[Billfish715]

Hey Foggy! Good to hear from you again. Your question is the same that more and more people are asking. I would almost not care too much about the number of keepers I caught on a trip. I would care about the lack of any action on shorts however. I can’t imagine what thoughts might be going through the minds of party boat striper fishermen who are on a boat with 50 or 60 other fishermen. A whole lotta guys will go home with nothing. Guys might be okay with one trip they can afford, but don’t look for too many returning fares. When the fish are scarce and possession limits are prohibitive, money talks!

[Duffman]

Originally Posted by foggy notion

My question therefore is.....is the preceding a wise use of my money?

If your trying to justify money spent against amount of meat your taking home perhaps this isn’t the sport for you.

As far as wise use of my money, I’d take rather spend $200 a day and catch nothing than saving money and being on land.

[Skolmann]

Originally Posted by Duffman

If your trying to justify money spent against amount of meat your taking home perhaps this isn’t the sport for you.

As far as wise use of my money, I’d take rather spend $200 a day and catch nothing than saving money and being on land.

👍

[Billfish715]

Originally Posted by Duffman

If your trying to justify money spent against amount of meat your taking home perhaps this isn’t the sport for you.

As far as wise use of my money, I’d take rather spend $200 a day and catch nothing than saving money and being on land.

Duffman and Skolmann: I don't know either of you personally and you don't know me either. It's obvious you don't know Foggy Notion either. Your sarcastic response to his post is uncalled for. I know Foggy and have fished with him. He is a gentleman, an expert fluke fisherman, a philanthropist, and someone who is known and respected in the fishing community. By being anonymous we all take liberties with our comments but please be careful about interpreting someone else's comments.

In this case, the fact that it costs more and more to fish for a fish that is in a serious population decline. is a justifiable concern. Everyone wants to catch fish and it's a bonus when you can bring your fresh catch home for dinner. Current regulations put a stumbling block on that. Really, I can't believe you would be satisfied with just being on a boat for $200 and catching nothing. How many times would you put up with that? Would you put out the additional $200 for a third trip with the hope of maybe catching three keepers? Look at the numbers! Why do you suppose the numbers of boats and anglers is dwindling? Money is the bottom line.

If you are driving in from Pennsylvania or northern New Jersey and you get up at O Dark Thirty to take a ride on a fishing boat to catching nothing or catch very little to take home, it's not good for a business that relies on returning customers. The next time you are at the Co-Op or fish market, check the prices of fresh fish. Now, do the math.

Is it about fishing and keeping? For some people, it is. Is it just about
catching? For some others, that is the case. Is it about being able to have the choice to do either? Yes, it is.

Foggy wrote about what everyone is thinking these days. Is the cost of a fishing trip worth it these days? He wasn't stating his opinion at all. He was simply posing the scenario and asking the question. Your answer is that it doesn't matter to you no matter how much you spend. A lot of other people will disagree. Don't cast a broad brush especially about people you don't know. If you knew who Foggy is, you'd be embarrassed about your insinuations. I'd almost suggest that Gerry take your reply down, but that's his call.

[Gerry Zagorski]

I don’t think Skolman or Duffs post were out of line they have opinions and I don’t see anything antagonist in their post. Oh by the way, I took down one response that was.

By the way Foggy Notion is Don K, a former outdoor writer and long time contributor here and deserves some respect.

[Duffman]

Originally Posted by Billfish715

Duffman and Skolmann: I don't know either of you personally and you don't know me either. It's obvious you don't know Foggy Notion either. Your sarcastic response to his post is uncalled for. I know Foggy and have fished with him. He is a gentleman, an expert fluke fisherman, a philanthropist, and someone who is known and respected in the fishing community. By being anonymous we all take liberties with our comments but please be careful about interpreting someone else's comments.

In this case, the fact that it costs more and more to fish for a fish that is in a serious population decline. is a justifiable concern. Everyone wants to catch fish and it's a bonus when you can bring your fresh catch home for dinner. Current regulations put a stumbling block on that. Really, I can't believe you would be satisfied with just being on a boat for $200 and catching nothing. How many times would you put up with that? Would you put out the additional $200 for a third trip with the hope of maybe catching three keepers? Look at the numbers! Why do you suppose the numbers of boats and anglers is dwindling? Money is the bottom line.

If you are driving in from Pennsylvania or northern New Jersey and you get up at O Dark Thirty to take a ride on a fishing boat to catching nothing or catch very little to take home, it's not good for a business that relies on returning customers. The next time you are at the Co-Op or fish market, check the prices of fresh fish. Now, do the math.

Is it about fishing and keeping? For some people, it is. Is it just about
catching? For some others, that is the case. Is it about being able to have the choice to do either? Yes, it is.

Foggy wrote about what everyone is thinking these days. Is the cost of a fishing trip worth it these days? He wasn't stating his opinion at all. He was simply posing the scenario and asking the question. Your answer is that it doesn't matter to you no matter how much you spend. A lot of other people will disagree. Don't cast a broad brush especially about people you don't know. If you knew who Foggy is, you'd be embarrassed about your insinuations. I'd almost suggest that Gerry take your reply down, but that's his call.

Are you being serious with this post? I wasn’t being sarcastic in any way toward him. Answering how I truly feel.

As far as being anonymous behind the keyboard I think that’s hardly the case. In the 20 years or so I’ve been around here I’ve probably fished with 75% of the posters here. I’m just saying I’m very easy to find and contact. No keyboard cowboy hiding here.

Can’t believe this place has gotten so sensitive. Maybe a time to take a break. Take care

[Duffman]

Oh and once last thing……how many times would I put up spending $200 a day and not bring anything home? To answer your question, it’s been about 35-40 times so far this year. Heading to boat in a few min for the Fri nite outing then again sat and sun. Maybe some flatties will cooperate….maybe not

Peace out

[Skolmann]

Originally Posted by Billfish715

Duffman and Skolmann: I don't know either of you personally and you don't know me either. It's obvious you don't know Foggy Notion either. Your sarcastic response to his post is uncalled for. I know Foggy and have fished with him. He is a gentleman, an expert fluke fisherman, a philanthropist, and someone who is known and respected in the fishing community. By being anonymous we all take liberties with our comments but please be careful about interpreting someone else's comments.

In this case, the fact that it costs more and more to fish for a fish that is in a serious population decline. is a justifiable concern. Everyone wants to catch fish and it's a bonus when you can bring your fresh catch home for dinner. Current regulations put a stumbling block on that. Really, I can't believe you would be satisfied with just being on a boat for $200 and catching nothing. How many times would you put up with that? Would you put out the additional $200 for a third trip with the hope of maybe catching three keepers? Look at the numbers! Why do you suppose the numbers of boats and anglers is dwindling? Money is the bottom line.

If you are driving in from Pennsylvania or northern New Jersey and you get up at O Dark Thirty to take a ride on a fishing boat to catching nothing or catch very little to take home, it's not good for a business that relies on returning customers. The next time you are at the Co-Op or fish market, check the prices of fresh fish. Now, do the math.

Is it about fishing and keeping? For some people, it is. Is it just about
catching? For some others, that is the case. Is it about being able to have the choice to do either? Yes, it is.

Foggy wrote about what everyone is thinking these days. Is the cost of a fishing trip worth it these days? He wasn't stating his opinion at all. He was simply posing the scenario and asking the question. Your answer is that it doesn't matter to you no matter how much you spend. A lot of other people will disagree. Don't cast a broad brush especially about people you don't know. If you knew who Foggy is, you'd be embarrassed about your insinuations. I'd almost suggest that Gerry take your reply down, but that's his call.

First off Foggy Notion (Don K) and I have shared information in the past. He might not remember but we communicated to one another on a long since gone website (WMI).

Secondly, how do you even read any sarcasm into Duffman’s comment (& my subsequent agreeing with that statement) ? All Duffman pointed out was the cost of being out on the water, being on your own boat, doing what you enjoy goes way beyond the price of fuel, bait, tackle, food/drink…..the point he was making (& Duffman, correct me if I’m wrong) is that you can’t do a cost analysis on the total overall experience. To myself & Duffman the experience of being outdoors, on the water, doing something we deeply enjoy is priceless-regardless if fish are caught or not. I also think Duffman will agree that catching fish just adds to the experience..

Lastly, as with Duffman. I fished with many of the members here (Duffman included) going back to the time when the format of this site was completely different.