People Keeping Fish Negative Posts

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

again its fisher peeps choice.you have your say and you said it.its like shooting that big buck.would it not be better for the heard to have the mature buck alive and shoot a smaller buck????we must let everyone one decide for themselves
and not make peeps feel bad or uneasy about their choice.

Here's your choice .

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[Capt Sal]

Well boys you just drove five hours from PA to go striper fishing.The bite today are all large fish in the 25-35 lb. range.We didn't get many but we landed six bass for six anglers.I know you guys only go two times a year and want some table fare being you spent $900 for the charter and tip for the mate.If you want to keep your fish it is your choice or release it.If you want to keep them here will be my post.-Had a good day no pictures.Case closed. Win win.

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

Here's your choice .

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Dan I couldn't agree more. This is what it's coming down to. ANY stock with a decline in recruitment should have the spawning season closed to ALL fishing and adopt regulations to protect the breeders. Then manage catch levels until the stock stabilizes and liberalize it once it has (the opposite of what happened with black sea bass). To close it to recreational but keep it open to commercial is the absolute worst case scenario and borderline psychotic management behavior. This is where salt water fisheries management reporting up under the Secretary of Commerce is killing stocks along with the recreational community's rights to their fair share.

I'd rather have a fishery to access and enjoy than no fishery at all which is what happened with stripers many years ago and certainly what happened to winter flounder. weakfish, whiting, cod and mackerel more recently.

[bunker dunker]

understood but having seen the striped bass,weakfish,whiting,mackerel,yft
bft and blowfish all take serious hits in my life time.i doubt any of it was caused
by the hook and line fisherman.i understand all points but what is allowed is allowed and thats the fact.oh yea if your telling me you would rather have a one year old buck tending a heard rather than a three to four year old buck,well thats a story for another day.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

understood but having seen the striped bass,weakfish,whiting,mackerel,yft
bft and blowfish all take serious hits in my life time.i doubt any of it was caused
by the hook and line fisherman.i understand all points but what is allowed is allowed and thats the fact.oh yea if your telling me you would rather have a one year old buck tending a heard rather than a three to four year old buck,well thats a story for another day.

Lol that buck with good genes is probably the little bucks daddy.
He passed his genes four four seasons before I took him out .

I agree most of our fisheries didn’t meet their demise by hook and line .
Stripers are a different story .

We also put a hurting on winter flounder when fishing was so good it was care free.

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Originally Posted by bunker dunker

understood but having seen the striped bass,weakfish,whiting,mackerel,yft
bft and blowfish all take serious hits in my life time.i doubt any of it was caused
by the hook and line fisherman.i understand all points but what is allowed is allowed and thats the fact.oh yea if your telling me you would rather have a one year old buck tending a heard rather than a three to four year old buck,well thats a story for another day.

Striped bass, weakfish, winter flounder and blow fish were definitely impacted by recreational catch. Whiting, mackerel, cod and ling were destroyed by commercial over-harvest. Commercial hurt bass recruitment by netting the breeders in the southern states. The large tide runner weakfish were hurt by commercial netting in Delaware Bay and purse seiners along the coast during their migration. Those four fisheries however had huge catches by recreational anglers which very much contributed to their declines. I remember guys on the Long Branch pier filling 152 quart coolers to the top with blow fish. Had to be 300-400 fish. People caught and kept 100's a day in Shark River, Manasquan, Highlands and Barnegat and the next year they "mysteriously" disappeared so yes recreational had a big impact on that fishery.

As far as bucks are concerned, you're putting words in my mouth. What I said was if the population is healthy, don't see a problem harvesting a large buck especially since life expectancy is between 3-5 years. Wasn't drawing comparisons between roles of a 1-yr old and 5-yr old buck within the hierarchy of the herd. Don't even see the point of your analogy since the issue Dan was addressing is killing female breeder bass before the spawn and how that hurts egg production which is on a decline. Female breeders can live 30 - 40 years and a 12-yr old fish is said to release ~850,000 eggs. A 50-yr old fish over 4 million eggs. If your point was the dominant buck has a different role than a one year old, I agree. Or if your point was intended to mean stronger more dominant bucks pass on better genes I'd also agree. Just not sure how that relates to the point Dan was making regarding egg production.

[bunker dunker]

if they can say that the hook and line angler is the reason for the decline in striped bass in Virginia and ignore that the state next door is netting the crap out of them without mention,shame on them.our sea bass is back better than ever and the regs are still the same??? i am only saying that if a person wants to keep their legal fish,no one should comment about releasing.if you can tell that a one year old buck has good genetics and is going to be a good deer,you
are in a very small group.i also understand we all have our favorite fish and we want to look out for them.

[tombanjo]

Jeez, can we get back to the global warming debate?

[SPEARFISH]

It's OK to post a pic of a pile of seabass, porgies, ling etc... or a limit of fluke, but post a pic of a bass and everyone gets their panties in a bunch. I never could understand it.

[Flygaff]

Every fish I keep, be it Fluke, Sea Bass, Tuna, or Shark is eaten. Nothing is wasted.