Another dead whale

[Pennsy Guy]

As I posted earlier, we can piss 'n moan, bitch, complain, point fingers, run in circles scream and shout BUT we, as ordinary humans, fisherpersons, able to see what is happening aren't going to, can't do a damn thing about it, to stop it, even with a vote. However, if you're an elected official in any capacity, you don't and won't vote to stop or investigate further. The god almighty dollar rules...Things in this country are happening, things I never thought or imagined would or could happen...Life sure has changed from the first half of my life, not too happy about it... I'm done.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by Ol Pedro

Where's Peta and Sea Shepard while this is going on?

Apparently they are turning a blind eye to anything that might interfere with their green agenda. Sound familiar? Critical thinking seems to be dead in this country because both parties want it that way. If there is something that does not meet their agenda, nothing to see here move on.

Latest example is the IRS made an unexpected visit to the home of Matt Taibbi on the same day that he testified before Congress on the Twitter Files. Nothing to see here either, I'm sure this was a just a coincidence, right?

This is not a party issue since it happens on both sides of the isle. It's not about seeking the truth or what's right or wrong, it's about getting re elected so you can line your pockets. I got a taste of this not long ago on a local level when I was asked to interview for a Municipal Director of Business Development. The first fat cat I was interviewed by asked me what I thought my main priority would be in this job.

- I naively answered , it's looking for ways to attract more businesses so we have more employment opportunities and increase the business tax base so it reduces residential taxes.
- No he said, your job is to get so and so reelected
- Well I said, this is going to be a very short meeting and I got up and left.

We're all being played by both sides and the frightening thing is they are so bold about it, they do it in broad daylight. Why, because they can. They know as long as they are in power, there's not a damn thing we can do about it and many seem to be OK with these political tactics as long as their party or agenda is on the winning side of it.

Sorry for the long rant here but it's time they stopped dividing us and we take off the party blinders, work together not against, seek the truth and do what's right.

Term limits would be a good start. It might happen, yeah and monkey's might fly out my butt too

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

Term limits would be a good start. It might happen, yeah and monkey's might fly out my butt too

I completely agree with everything you wrote. I'd actually pay for front row seats to see the last part of your post. The IRS does not make house calls, somebody at a higher level with either the DOJ or Executive Branch did.

No better example of the weaponization of our government and elected officials. They're not representing the people any longer, they're representing themselves and their own personal interests. Regardless of your politics, with the announcement about the indictment of Trump yesterday, there's going to be a revolution in this country and truthfully I'm not sure that isn't exactly what has to happen. The values and work ethics that built this Country have gotten lost with today's politicians and youth. Yesterday's news is going to light a powder keg, mark this post.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

I completely agree with everything you wrote. I'd actually pay for front row seats to see the last part of your post. The IRS does not make house calls, somebody at a higher level with either the DOJ or Executive Branch did.

No better example of the weaponization of our government and elected officials. They're not representing the people any longer, they're representing themselves and their own personal interests. Regardless of your politics, with the announcement about the indictment of Trump yesterday, there's going to be a revolution in this country and truthfully I'm not sure that isn't exactly what has to happen. The values and work ethics that built this Country have gotten lost with today's politicians and youth. Yesterday's news is going to light a powder keg, mark this post.

BB
You had me for the most part in your caring about WF whale / porpoise deaths and marine stewardship on the overall effects. It made me do some research etc continually to leave an unbiased opinion on this subject politics be damned.
Your last post quoted sounds a whole different tune politically which I will address at the bottom of my post.

Back to WF and whales etc:
https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/topic...ng-marine-life

When you dig through this you will see right on their website on this link pretty much verbatim Dr Sean Hayes warning memo so there is some transparency as well as it wasn't ignored.
Offshore Wind Development's Potential Impacts
Scientists around the world are still investigating the potential impacts of offshore wind energy development on marine life. Site assessment, construction, and operations could interact with marine life on the seabed, in the water, and at the surface. For example, offshore wind energy projects could:
• Increase ocean noise, which could affect the behaviors of fish, whales, and other species
• Introduce electro-magnetic fields that impact navigation, predator detection, communication, and the ability for fish and shellfish to find mates
• Change existing habitats by altering local or regional hydrodynamics
• Create a “reef effect” where marine life cluster around the hard surfaces of wind developments
• Impact organism life cycle stages, including larval dispersal and spawning
• Change species composition, abundance, distribution, and survival rates
• Increase vessel traffic, which could lead to more vessel strikes
• Release contaminants that can be consumed or absorbed by marine life
Offshore wind is a new use of our marine waters, requiring substantial scientific and regulatory review. We are committed to careful review and use of the best available scientific information in satisfying the requirements of the Marine Mammal Protection Act for offshore wind energy projects.
Also you will find the many studies ongoing and done in the past on this. My fear is these latest OSWF in NJ are another guinea pig to get results so playing this out non partison for what it is or may be.

What I am looking at next (non politically) is the " Incidental Take Permits" (in the link above and below) as there are (2) Two options to apply for any construction in the waters we revere. I wonder and am still trying to get my hands on the ACTUAL Permit submission and what was granted to Orstead / Offshore Wind etc from NOAA as that would tell a tale of what they expected on these deaths during mapping and or construction. More to follow.

https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/permi...protection-act

Also looking into why Sonar Mapping / Seismic Blasting / testing was horrified by Marine Conservation but ignored totally by OIL Drill baby Drill Rig supporters back in the day.
https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...ars%20on%20end.

In any event these studies have been going on and continue going on but marine life seems to have adapted and even thrived on most offshore structure. All to be determined is why those involved cant simply say this is the initial harm / marine life deaths and what will come back in the future including access. Seems simple enough right LOL.

Now as far the old quote “ follow the money” while true if that was the case all politicans since the founding of this country from either party would be via hypocrosiy and criminal acts be held accountable but sadly not the case.

Now for your buddy Donald Trump and your statement of a “powder Keg” No matter where you stand politcally, business wise , tax wise some and granted few of his policies were OK. I believe he himself made this happen and at best is plain stupid or at worst the criminal he is.

White collar on this indictment for Fraud etc albeit the affair is not the big issue. What is the bigger issue is multiple counts of fraud, Jan 6th 2021inssurrection and voter fraud in GA which should have been and may still be his worst issue. Just like a whale struggling video you cant unsee what really happened on Jan 6th 2021and it was NOT a sightseeing tour or done by “ others”. All on him and he still carries on with the same BS. Our Founding fathers would have taken care of him quickly.

OH and yes the IRS does come to not only your house but anyone else’s who may be involved when they OWE.

[Broad Bill]

Interesting post. I stand behind everything I posted on wind farm development and believe that even though Sean Heyes memorandum may have been quoted on NOAA's website which it most likely had to, it certainly appears for the most part his warnings and concerns had very little impact if any on how this massive project is proceeding. It's much like some of the posts I've read on this site over the years where fisheries management is required to conduct public meetings to solicit public opinion yet they never factor those opinions and perspectives into final regulations. In my opinion, Sean Hayes's report was simply part of the process and never intended to influence how the powers to be we're planning to proceed and his warnings and concerns were noted but we're never addressed or acted on. The difference to answer your question about history and past perspectives versus what we're talking about today is the scale of this project. We're in the process of seeing a massive electro magnetic field being deployed in our oceans with no prior history of impacts and no scientist can truly say with any degree of certainty what the ramifications of that project are going to be. They might think they can but how can anyone be sure of the impacts of something that has never before been tried in our lifetime.

As far as your inference to "My Buddy Trump", I really have no desire to get into a political debate with you or anyone else on a fishing website. That said, please refer me to where my post said I supported Trump. What I actually said was politics aside, what happened yesterday with Trump's indictment is going to be a powder keg in this country and it will be. I was responding to Mr. Zagorski's post about his interview for the Municipal Business Development position and the fact that business development wasn't at all the focus of that interview as opposed to how to re-elect current officials.

My point about the Trump indictment was that Alvin Bragg, New York's DA, isn't using his position to serve the people of New York in the judicial role of a DA. He's using his position to target a specific political figure. It was actually part of his campaign commitment, to target Trump and his family while undermining the responsibilities of his office, his constituents and Democracy in the process. That's not acting in the capacity of a District Attorney, that's being a vigilante and it's not only happening at every level of our government today, it's happening at the highest levels including the Executive Branch, the FBI and the DOJ to mention a few. The lines between politics and justice in this country have become very blurred, there's a double standard and it should be a concern to every citizen of this Country.

If you honestly believe the IRS coincidentally made a house call to Matt Taibbi's home, again a response to Mr Zagorski's post, the day he was scheduled to testify before Congress about Twitter related matters exposing FBI and DOJ practices, let's just agree we have a completely different perspective about the role government plays today and how they carry out that role. Somewhere along the way, our elected officials began representing themselves and stopped representing the American people who put them in office. Our government is as corrupt today as it's ever been in American history and if you do the research it doesn't take a genius to realize that's a true statement. If you believe Trump is a criminal, you have to include probably a hundred other politicians and others into that same category including Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Nancy Pelosi, George Bush, George Soros, Fauci and many others from both parties who have all been involved in very questionable dealings. Again if you think our current leadership is doing a great job and has this Country moving in the right direction, I would again have to respectfully disagree with that position.

No more about politics, nobody on this board wants to hear what they already know.

[Broad Bill]

Back to the point of this thread, the impacts of wind farms. A few interesting articles from Harvard and MIT with a different perspective on the impacts wind farms might actually be having on increasing global warming, the counter opposite of it's intent.

https://www.americanexperiment.org/h...s-would-avert/

https://www.technologyreview.com/201...t-warming/amp/

[tautog]

Wind farms are also bird blenders. Areas near the North Sea wind farm off the UK have seen bird numbers plummet.