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[Broad Bill]

Wouldn't have changed one word in my post. If you disagree with my replies, feel free to speak your mind.

[june181901]

For anyone reading this thread who doesn't have the salt water registry paper with them be advised not to fish Sandy Hook. Rangers ask for it and if you can't produce it you'll be given a citation answerable to the U.S. Magistrates court in Newark.

[baseballman]

Can someone please tell me what is so magical about the 28" mark? Why has this been the starting point of our keeper fish for decades. Seems outdated and against conventional wisdom when 31"+ fish are the ones we want to protect.

I have questioned out loud, for many years, why size limits have not been downgraded after science supports 30+ inch fish being big breeding females. Bonus fish (maybe even 24-30") would be the best fish to be year-round keepers...they are generally plentiful from both shore and boating and the smaller bass are better quality on the table.

Keeping the status quo...28" keepers...will one day result in this fishery being closed down, which is a real shame because the science supports nothing of this sort in NJ.

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

No I believe our numbers would exceed delawares numbers and their sight gives more input how moneys can be spent


https://documents.dnrec.delaware.gov...llars%20go.pdf



https://dnrec.alpha.delaware.gov/fis...life/licenses/


There is more than just the 1 percent payment
Their is also a 3/1 payback vs the license fees etc

IMO Nj salt water anglers pay a considerable amount of excise tax that we should be chasing every cent that can be used for access to the fishery .

Nj won’t put more money into our access from the general fund
So why not force them to get moneys used for our best interests

Our numbers already exceed Delaware's total funding between excise taxes and license fees so you're repeating what I just said in my post.

NJF&W site essentially provides the same information in the following link.

https://dep.nj.gov/njfw/conservation...ation-program/

If you took the time to look, once the funds are deposited with the state fishery agency, the charter of those agencies dictates how the money can be spent. There's language in the legislation regarding minimums required to be spent for certain areas but a large portion of the funds are spent based on the discretion of each states fishery agency.

You posted 4/1, I replied and then you edit your post to 3/1. It would be easier to answer your questions if you didn't change them after I replied and you still didn't answer the question of what that actually means. Maybe you need to call Eric.

I'll keep saying this until I'm blue in the face, we get every dollar we can based on the size of New Jersey and the amount of anglers that we have. The same formula is used for every state in the country, New Jersey is no different. We actually get more than Delaware in license fees but the exact same amount in excise taxes so I really truly don't understand your post other than the fact that you seem to be saying the way the money is spent by Delaware is more noticeable or sensible than the way it's allocated and spent by New Jersey.

Your last comment about moving money from the general fund into areas that have a greater impact on saltwater improvements is fascinating but if you think that's ever going to happen you're living in Fantasyland.

You never answered my question so if we're ever going to have productive exchange, you need to stay on topic as opposed to jumping all over the board.

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by Tuna Tales

Yes - amazing what one Google search can yield: Eric and I discussed this topic at the 2022 Saltwater Show. Eric started the Mid-Atlantic edition of The Fisherman Magazine so I think he knows what he is talking about. https://www.capegazette.com/article/...oney-go/256637

Still waiting for your reply regarding what portion of my post you disagree with. Cryptic replies don't help anyone understand your points This whole process seems fairly simple and straightforward and there's more than a few statements in this thread that don't represent how this entire process works and what the impacts of a salt water license would mean to NJ or the fact that New Jersey does receive its fair share of federal excise taxes. If anyone wants to post something here, I think they owe it to the site to at least be accurate with what they're saying.

[Tuna Tales]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

Still waiting for your reply regarding what portion of my post you disagree with. Cryptic replies don't help anyone understand your points This whole process seems fairly simple and straightforward and there's more than a few statements in this thread that don't represent how this entire process works and what the impacts of a salt water license would mean to NJ or the fact that New Jersey does receive its fair share of federal excise taxes. If anyone wants to post something here, I think they owe it to the site to at least be accurate with what they're saying.

Yes...I will reply tonight. Thanks.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

Our numbers already exceed Delawares so you're just repeating what I said on my post.

If you took the time to look, once the funds are deposited with the state fishery agency, the charter of those agencies dictates how the money can be spent. There's language in the legislation regarding minimums required to be spent for certain areas but a large portion of the funds are spent based on the discretion of each individual states agency.

You posted 4/1, I replied and then you edit your post to 3/1. It would be easier to answer your questions if you didn't change them after I replied and you still didn't answer the question of what that actually means. Maybe you need to call Eric.

I'll keep saying this until I'm blue in the face, we get every dollar we can based on the size of New Jersey and the amount of anglers that we have. The same formula is used for every state in the country, New Jersey is no different. We actually get more than Delaware in license fees but the exact same amount in excise taxes so I really truly don't understand your post other than the fact that you seem to be saying the way the money is spent by Delaware is more efficient than the way it's allocated and spent by New Jersey.

Your last comment about moving money from the general fund into areas that have a greater impact on saltwater improvements is fascinating but if you think that's ever going to happen you're living in Fantasyland.

You never answered my question so if we're ever going to have productive exchange, you need to stay on topic as opposed to jumping all over the board.

Bill I wrote in a post back to you that I had written 4/1 but it’s 3/1 .
Every state there us info for shows a 3/1 excise payback vs total license sales .
Not per individual angler as you’re stating .
Possibly there is a minimum / maximum on the pay backs .

Regardless when the license was brought up , they explained what we were giving up but not having a paid license . No one said we already got our percentage as you’re claiming .

I didn’t say the general fund would give us anything to help the fisheries here , as it’s well known we get the minimum .
I said we should be chasing the excise money and any available restoration resource moneys we are entitled to .

Our opinions differ on the reasons to have or not have a salt water license , I firmly believe it offers us more protections and programs to benifit recreational fisherman .

The current way hasn’t worked for us at all .
Look up the marine summary card from 2007 , and from 2022 or 2023 .
You will see all we have lost very quickly across every species .


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[AndyS]

Originally Posted by june181901

For anyone reading this thread who doesn't have the salt water registry paper with them be advised not to fish Sandy Hook. Rangers ask for it and if you can't produce it you'll be given a citation answerable to the U.S. Magistrates court in Newark.

I have another 126 miles of coastline that I won't be checked on, but thanks anyway.

[dales529]

Originally Posted by AndyS

I have another 126 miles of coastline that I won't be checked on, but thanks anyway.

Thanks for alerting them to the coastline. So you are a steward of conservation and rule player on FW but could give a rats ass on playing by the rules for SW

[Ol Pedro]

Originally Posted by dales529

Thanks for alerting them to the coastline. So you are a steward of conservation and rule player on FW but could give a rats ass on playing by the rules for SW

I think that it's called sarcasm and not giving a rats assing.