Not Good News

[Skolmann]

If (& I stress if) true-it’s devastating news for an already struggling industry.

http://brick.shorebeat.com/2020/04/n...-rental-boats/

[Gerry Zagorski]

Not good at all and same from channel 12 news http://www.news12.com/story/42022877...arinas-to-open

Don’t see why charter and party boats pose more of a threat than private boats if they’re practicing and held accountable to the same social distancing measures. This makes no sense to me.

[Capt Joe]

Pitchforks, torches and ropes with nooses coming to a State House near you

Why wouldn't the same logic apply to every commercial operation as well. There's a comparable number of people working charters plus fares as there are working on commercial trawlers and some of the larger vessels probably have as many employees working as the numbers sailing during the week on party boats. If the for hire and party boat fleet gets closed down, the entire commercial fleet should be closed down up and down the eastern seaboard for precisely the same reason. Instead they propose increases to trip limits so commercials can bring in more tonnage over less trips when market prices have tanked and domestic and foreign markets have deteriorated.

I would never wish anyone's business to suffer but this double standard between state and federal governments between commercial and recreational rights can't go on. If this article is correct, you are putting for hire and party boats out of business and if this is for the benefit of public safety you can't ignore the same safety risks the commercial sector poses for the exact same reasons.

Complete BS.

[Gremlin2009]

I just heard that governors of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut have agreed to open marinas

[shrimpman steve]

The idea was to flatten the curve and not inundate the health system. We have done that. This is starting to look less deadly then flu as far as mortality. Protect the vulnerable and let the healthy start to get back to work. Yes there’s going to be more deaths but the hospitals have had time to prepare. I’m not saying open tomorrow, but we better start soon.

Ahhhhh, what do I know, I drive an airboat for a living.

[hammer4reel]

Recreational sectors already had an order in place .
In order to fish a private boat it had to be immediate family or household .

Meaning no friends gatherings to fish.

No different for an immediate family to be self quarantined on their boat or in their house..

Glad my fishing partner is the same person that sleeps next to me.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by shrimpman steve

The idea was to flatten the curve and not inundate the health system. We have done that. This is starting to look less deadly then flu as far as mortality. Protect the vulnerable and let the healthy start to get back to work. Yes there’s going to be more deaths but the hospitals have had time to prepare. I’m not saying open tomorrow, but we better start soon.

Ahhhhh, what do I know, I drive an airboat for a living.

Be fine if that was actually possible , but it’s not .
One look at nursing homes proves that just because it’s passed around the normal community it will make it there .

Healthy going back to soon is just going to hurt more of those compromised .


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[Gumada]

I fear that even if the for-hire boats were allowed to open it would be tough for them to attract fares. Getting 6 fares that don’t reside together even if they know each other would be a challenge. Or 40 strangers on a party boat, they are potentially putting their families at risk.....I just don’t see it happening at this point. It’s sad but it’s the way it is for now.....

[frugalfisherman]

The governor of NJ has stated he doesn't consider the Constitution in his decisions. In fact he said the Constitution is "above my pay grade".


The First Amendment to the United States Constitution prohibits the United States Congress from enacting legislation that would abridge the right of the people to assemble peaceably.[1] The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution makes this prohibition applicable to state governments.[2]

The Supreme Court of the United States has held that the First Amendment protects the right to conduct a peaceful public assembly.[3] The right to assemble is not, however, absolute. Government officials cannot simply prohibit a public assembly in their own discretion,[4] but the government can impose restrictions on the time, place, and manner of peaceful assembly, provided that constitutional safeguards are met.[5] Time, place, and manner restrictions are permissible so long as they “are justified without reference to the content of the regulated speech, . . . are narrowly tailored to serve a significant governmental interest, and . . . leave open ample alternative channels for communication of the information.”[6]

Such time, place, and manner restrictions can take the form of requirements to obtain a permit for an assembly.[7] The Supreme Court has held that it is constitutionally permissible for the government to require that a permit for an assembly be obtained in advance.[8] The government can also make special regulations that impose additional requirements for assemblies that take place near major public events.[9]

In the United States, the organizer of a public assembly must typically apply for and obtain a permit in advance from the local police department or other local governmental body.[10] Applications for permits usually require, at a minimum, information about the specific date, time, and location of the proposed assembly, and may require a great deal more information.[11] Localities can, within the boundaries established by Supreme Court decisions interpreting the First Amendment right to assemble peaceably, impose additional requirements for permit applications, such as information about the organizer of the assembly and specific details about how the assembly is to be conducted.[12]

The First Amendment does not provide the right to conduct an assembly at which there is a clear and present danger of riot, disorder, or interference with traffic on public streets, or other immediate threat to public safety or order.[13] Statutes that prohibit people from assembling and using force or violence to accomplish unlawful purposes are permissible under the First Amendment.[14] ys the Constitution is "above his pay grade".