Fluke petition

[TwoDDs]

Originally Posted by DMac

We eclipsed 1500 signatures and i am very happy with that but need to keep building numbers as we can. I had a 45 min phone conversation with david golden of nj marine fisheries today so my emails and petition are getting attention my next step is composing letter and attaching this petition and sending it to dep commisioner who must sign the regulations into law before they are official. I will not stop until there is no more options. We are definately noticed throughout the organization top to bottom. If nothing else this will help us for the future. Thank you. I will keep working for you all. Please help by sharing the petition to those who may not know about it and keep signature numbers climbing. Its still hard uphill battle but ill keep it moving in right direction.

DMac,

Can you shed any light on your conversation with Mr. Golden? Curious, if the Commissioner can arbitrarily over-rule the Council and if so, is there any precedence for that within NJF&W? I would think that internally, they're struggling with the concept that the Council went against their own Committee's recommendations, including the Bureau of Law Enforcement and and that they had to forego the typical and customary public commenting process, due to timing constraints.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks.

[DMac]

Originally Posted by TwoDDs

DMac,

Can you shed any light on your conversation with Mr. Golden? Curious, if the Commissioner can arbitrarily over-rule the Council and if so, is there any precedence for that within NJF&W? I would think that internally, they're struggling with the concept that the Council went against their own Committee's recommendations, including the Bureau of Law Enforcement and and that they had to forego the typical and customary public commenting process, due to timing constraints.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Well obviously you did your research because you touched on many items covered during out discussion.

The commisioner must sign recommendation of council into law

During conversation there was a neutral tone and carefully worded responses to my points and questions.

There was an agreement between us that this will be very difficult for enforcement due to complication and previse measurement requirements.

Everything you mentioned was discussed as well as additional items as far as their stance they as a agency are not taking a position is what the general tone of conversation was. They just provide comment prior to council vote. Hope that answers what you were asking.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by DMac

Well obviously you did your research because you touched on many items covered during out discussion.

The commisioner must sign recommendation of council into law

During conversation there was a neutral tone and carefully worded responses to my points and questions.

There was an agreement between us that this will be very difficult for enforcement due to complication and previse measurement requirements.

Everything you mentioned was discussed as well as additional items as far as their stance they as a agency are not taking a position is what the general tone of conversation was. They just provide comment prior to council vote. Hope that answers what you were asking.

Way to go Dmac and glad you're getting so involved!

Speaking of the council, we have 2 vacant positions that are unfilled, one from sportfish for and one from the public. I think it should be a priority to get those vacant seats filled so we have a more balanced council.

This from the State page

Marine Fisheries Council
Richard N. Herb, Acting Chair (Sportfish)
Dr. Eleanor Ann Bochenek (Public)
Dr. Patrick Donnelly (Sportfish)
Warren Hollinger (Del. Bay Shellfish Council)
Jeff Kaelin (Processor)
John J. Maxwell (Atl. Coast Shellfish Council)
Joe Rizzo (Commercial)
Robert R. Rush, Jr. (Sportfish)
Kevin Wark (Commercial)
Vacant (Public)
Vacant (Sportfish)

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by DMac

Well obviously you did your research because you touched on many items covered during out discussion.

The commisioner must sign recommendation of council into law

During conversation there was a neutral tone and carefully worded responses to my points and questions.

There was an agreement between us that this will be very difficult for enforcement due to complication and previse measurement requirements.

Everything you mentioned was discussed as well as additional items as far as their stance they as a agency are not taking a position is what the general tone of conversation was. They just provide comment prior to council vote. Hope that answers what you were asking.

Way to go Dmac and glad you're getting so involved! I didn't think the state was going to overturn the council decision but it seems that way and now you know for future reference what the states position is. Besides, that it could be a slipperier slope since now you have fewer paid people at the state level making choices instead of more people on the council who volunteer their time and will not do what might be convenient as far as the state is concerned.

A chess game for sure with a lot of moving parts.

Speaking of the council, we have 2 vacant positions that are unfilled, one from sportfish for and one from the public. I think it should be a priority to get those vacant seats filled and from people in different areas of our state so we have a more balanced council. People like you and me need people on the council we can talk to that represent our local interests.

This from the State page

Marine Fisheries Council
Richard N. Herb, Acting Chair (Sportfish)
Dr. Eleanor Ann Bochenek (Public)
Dr. Patrick Donnelly (Sportfish)
Warren Hollinger (Del. Bay Shellfish Council)
Jeff Kaelin (Processor)
John J. Maxwell (Atl. Coast Shellfish Council)
Joe Rizzo (Commercial)
Robert R. Rush, Jr. (Sportfish)
Kevin Wark (Commercial)
Vacant (Public)
Vacant (Sportfish)