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Old 10-08-2018, 10:37 AM
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I'm not suggesting weather, water temps, bait don't all impact fish movements but my opinion is the world's oceans are getting smaller due to technology advancements and world demand for fish is increasing exponentially. Steam might be pushing horizontal but see more yellow fin tuna in the fish markets today than years gone by so someone's harvesting them. Individual owner operators are being replaced by conglomerates with the financial resources to more efficiently harvest those resources. One species after another is being pushed to the brink until it's no longer economically viable to target. Ling / whiting in the mud hole is a perfect example years ago. Throw cod and mackerel into the mix as well. Small mesh netters destroyed the ling / whiting fishery until it wasn't economically viable any longer and they moved on. Same thing is happening world wide with every fishery with a commercial presence. You can't over fish a resource which is dependent on its own reproduction and expect it to sustain its existence......it's that simple. Problem as always is money talks and many of the ocean's resources are failing under the pressure.

Do the research and look at harvest numbers in this case with tuna and the problem jumps off the page. Countries now netting juvenile tuna, keeping them alive, feeding them in fish farms until ready to be brought to market and making millions in the process. What impact is this practice having on reproduction and who monitors and evaluates it?

I'm not an advocate of over regulation, I am an advocate of sensible fisheries management. You can't expect salt water resources where no stocking takes place and fish are harvested virtually year round to sustain themselves without adequate reproduction levels being managed relative to overall harvest. It's a losing proposition.

Interesting read on Fish Aggregating Devices (FAD's). The oceans resources are being destroyed by commercial over-harvest fueled by corporate greed and technology advancements. View the data in Figure 5. to get an idea of what's happening in our oceans which most of us aren't even aware of.

https://academic.oup.com/icesjms/art.../1/215/2418180
Really appreciate your perspective on this stuff. I was under the impression that the tuna fishery both commercial and rec was very tightly managed. Can you comment on that?
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Old 10-09-2018, 09:07 AM
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Really appreciate your perspective on this stuff. I was under the impression that the tuna fishery both commercial and rec was very tightly managed. Can you comment on that?
Lot of articles on line about the increased harvest of tuna over the past 4-5 decades. Read the attached article which contains a lot of information regarding world tuna harvest. Specifically addressing your question, reference first paragraph in section 1.1.6 addressing IUU (illegal, unreported and unregulated) practices. The data in the article only goes through 2000, but focus on the trend lines. If you assume based on technological improvements of commercial fisheries and market prices of tuna the trend lines have continued to increase over the last 18 years, imagine what the harvest numbers are today.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/007/y5428e/y5428e03.htm

Fisheries management have a hard enough time monitoring and quantifying harvest statistics for inshore species, pelagics with the expanse of ocean they travel and number of countries involved is virtually impossible to quantify and or regulate. World wide demand is increasing, prices have sky rocketed and the resource can't keep pace.

Read the article in the below link, published this year, regarding bluefin tuna.

https://www.thenation.com/article/no...-japans-sushi/

Note the following excerpt, "In 2012 only 6 percent of all bluefin were old enough (three to five years) to reproduce; by 2016 the ratio had fallen to only 2.6 percent. Japan, responsible for 75 percent of all bluefin catches in the Pacific between 1980 and 2014, is now under pressure to introduce serious measures to stem the decline." What does that statement bring to mind? Exact same problem NMFS and ASMFC created with the fluke fishery by legislating over harvest of breeders and allowing commercial operators to harvest during the spawn which is why reproduction over the last twenty years has tanked. Easy fixes but unfortunately money and politics prevents remedial decisions from being made.

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Old 10-09-2018, 10:25 AM
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Did you guys ever make to canyon or fished inshore of it?


No sword or whites action?
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Old 10-09-2018, 11:15 AM
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I am scheduled on this weeks 48 hour canyon run. It was cancelled two weeks ago and is not looking very promising for this weeks. Thursday seas building to 18 feet. Maybe the storm will park on top of NC again
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Looks like it's a go but only a 30-36hr, probably a 30, given Friday's early AM position...Ketch-um-up guys...
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:03 AM
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I am disappointed with all the fishing reports out there. I am on tonight's 30 hr trip. I guess for daytime I will drop to 30# leaders. for over night I think I will concentrate on swords until we see any tuna action. you just never know.
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