NOAA Rules in NJ's Favor Regarding Fluke

[bunker dunker]

i'm sure the sponsor pbs are happy{not}they have to make budget with a month less fishing time.its not a win nor a step in the right direction.

[bhackemup]

Originally Posted by makosnax

This is hardly a win, this is settling for the scraps that fell off the table during our corrupt legislative process.

You beat me to it! Like we are supposed to be jumping up and down for a three...fish limit and NO...September? And please, people, please stop saying, "We limited out." Like, 3 fluke? Like one weakfish? Geeeeezzz Loueeez!!!

[Gerry Zagorski]

No one is happy with these regulations. If anything these crappy regulations do favor the southern NJ boats better since the fish are generally smaller and their season ends when the vacationers leave in early Sept. It would be nice if we could split our state regulations north and south and let each decide what's best for them in terms of start and end dates.... I hope that option comes available since it would settle the north vs south thing. What it's not going to solve is the larger issues of fisheries management. Our season was doomed from the start given the status of the stocks, how that is measured and how they set regulations. If you think 2017 sucks, just wait until you see 2018....

Yes these short term regulations suck but the only way out of them is a long overdue and massive overhaul of Fisheries Management, the science and their philosophies. It's pretty obvious what they've been doing for the last 30 years is obviously not working for the fish or the fishermen.

Look at Sea Bass.. Totally rebuilt yet we still have these restrictive regulations in place?? Total BS and things need to change...

[Ttmako]

Agree with above.
Only way fisheries regulations will improve is loosen the Magnusson constraint.
In order to that, WE need to pressure our politicians and hold them accountable.

My rep., Tom Macarthur flat out lied to me about the Fluke issue. Nearly every Jersey politician failed to act. Yes they wrote letters, but we needed more than that.
The reason we didn't get status-quo was simply a failure for our representatives to do their job. That too needs to change.

If you are unhappy with 3@18, then tell your congressman. If your business is going to suffer, make sure your politician knows.

Personally, I will not support Tom Macarthur in his reelection campaign.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by Ttmako

Agree with above.
Only way fisheries regulations will improve is loosen the Magnusson constraint.
In order to that, WE need to pressure our politicians and hold them accountable.

My rep., Tom Macarthur flat out lied to me about the Fluke issue. Nearly every Jersey politician failed to act. Yes they wrote letters, but we needed more than that.
The reason we didn't get status-quo was simply a failure for our representatives to do their job. That too needs to change.

If you are unhappy with 3@18, then tell your congressman. If your business is going to suffer, make sure your politician knows.

Personally, I will not support Tom Macarthur in his reelection campaign.

Yep we need to fight this bottoms up by working with local politicians and top down working with the executive branches in Washington.

[1captainron]

21 days off of Sept.....8 more days off added to that so far due to Weather and lack of participation, I should be happy, Bullshit. Give the dog a bone thinking it will makes us feel better or help the business, yea right. No Refunds for Weather days, WTF!!

[FVPelican]

Yes, I agree that three fluke at 18" and a shortened season is far from optimal. But look what just happened. The NJ DEP, NJ Fish & Wildlife and the NJ Marine Fisheries Council just told the ASMFC to "Go Fluke Yourself," and they won!! Contrary to some of the above comments, this is a major political victory. The state is now on our side in a big way. But we need to take this to the next level to make genuine progress on the regulations for all species. Our congressmen and senators need to address Magnussen.

Also, thanks to the RFA and JCAA. Join at least one, if not both. They fight tirelessly for us. They need your financial support. And remember, if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.

Also thanks to our ASMFC reps, Nowalski and Fote, who always stand up for us.

[Joey Dah Fish]

It's not a win and I wish all of you glass half full guys had the decency to be honest. They regs suck!!!! Not only were we lied too, we were also misrepresented. By actually trying to defend cutting back room deals with our fishery against us as fisherman you have successfully once again insured their power and their position. Have you no moral obligation ? Have you no sense of right and wrong? You said it was status quo or bust. The proof that you not only lie but betray shows all you can't be trusted. In addition you are now part of the problem not the solution. Either you have the balls to be honest and truthful or you are the same as the ones making the regs. Call me crazy but that's the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. If not prove me wrong!!!!

[frugalfisherman]

I'm not in compliance and I live in NJ.

[Capt Sal]

Not exactly a win.They still are not using the science we paid for with Rutgers.Maybe the biologists from Rutgers should write a letter to Mr Ross?I also agree that the bull shit "Linited Out''has to go It makes it look like alot of fish are being kept when in reality we are keeping the scraps the threw us. Just say you a good day and take a picture .It would be like i limited out on Weakfish=1 fish. i limited out on Winter Flounder=2 fish.Fluke is there now also with a three fish limit!