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Old 01-18-2021, 12:05 PM
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The frequencies create two distinctly different look down cones. So lets say in 20 feet of water the transducer in looking at a 15' circle. While that same freq in 200 feet of water is looking a 200 foot wide circle.

The deep frequency had a much tighter cone so that in 200-300 feet of water it is only a 50 foot wide on the bottom. Problem is, that it's narrow so can easily miss stuff not directly underneath it is shall water where the cone may only be a few feet wide.

And remember CHIRP stuff is digital smart processing by the machine trying to figure out what it is seeing. Not the transducer.

And true 3D is usually two transducer, like our own two eyes to get depth perception.
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Old 01-18-2021, 08:05 PM
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I called the Airmar tech support today. Their technician said based upon my information I gave him he recommends the TM185M as a good all around transducer. Has anyone used this one? The Airmar site has a great tool for seeing how big of a cone you will get with any transducer at any depth. Pretty cool.
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I’d take his recommendation since Airmar makes most of the ducers that come standard with most machines and they know what they’re doing. A few things that may or may not be important to you, if your machine is capable, a ducer that reads water temps not sure if the one he recommended does. I see your going for the transom mount which is fine. They likely sell a tilted element that’s a through hull and the nice thing about the tilted element is they don’t require faring blocks to sit level and don’t stick out from the hull. You do however need to know exactly where to install it on your particular hull. If you guess wrong you kinda screwed since you might not be able to read bottom at planing speeds.
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Old 01-19-2021, 10:48 AM
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Whether transom mount or shoot-through, the location of the transducer is ABSOLUTELY THE KEY. CLEAN WATER.. not air bubbles.

Go as near keel as you can. Stay away from the chines. Planing boats are designed to get lift ( AND AIR) for less hydrodynamic drag and more speed. You ever see the chopped chines? That is for one purpose to get air under the hull, BUT..... You want to keep un-aerated water under under and near the transducer. The ideal location is well aft and as near the keel as possible.

My 14 foot tin crab warrior Heat Seeker with an older Lowrance FF shows me clean bottom at its max speed of about 25 mph over the bottom.

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I’d take his recommendation since Airmar makes most of the ducers that come standard with most machines and they know what they’re doing. A few things that may or may not be important to you, if your machine is capable, a ducer that reads water temps not sure if the one he recommended does. I see your going for the transom mount which is fine. They likely sell a tilted element that’s a through hull and the nice thing about the tilted element is they don’t require faring blocks to sit level and don’t stick out from the hull. You do however need to know exactly where to install it on your particular hull. If you guess wrong you kinda screwed since you might not be able to read bottom at planing speeds.
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The rep at simrad says their active imaging 3 in 1

Through hull to go with that is their SS175H-W 20 degree
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Old 01-19-2021, 01:08 PM
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The rep at simrad says their active imaging 3 in 1

Through hull to go with that is their SS175H-W 20 degree
You Dan I've looked at the active imaging one and it does a good job from screen shots ive seen
Ultimately I would love to use the 3in1 ducer for everything but wreck fishing. Then use the TM185M for wreck fishing perhaps.
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