Reducing Recreational Mortality

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by 1captainron

Can't wait to see the Buck-tailers with 8'0 Spro's !!

START , been using 7/0 on bucktails to 6 OZ
everything over 6 OZ has an 8/0 in it

AND even 14" fish have no problem getting those hooks in thier mouth

[Joey Dah Fish]

As Shrimpman would say " I use a #9 and if you think that's to big you're wrong"

[reason162]

Originally Posted by 1captainron

3 ft.leader, 40 lb test? Sorry my friend but I don't know what Party boats you are talking about, certainly not mine....customers are not schooled to count to 30 then set the hook. No English hook's here and larger J hooks to prevent damage...take this somewhere else.

Wasn't talking to you and never fished on your boat; calm your horses.

[fishguy]

Originally Posted by reason162

Wasn't talking to you and never fished on your boat; calm your horses.

Not for nothing who were you talking too? When you post stuff you pretty much are saying what you say to the whole internet universe. That's how it works. Capt. Ron made a valid point about how he runs his business, the business of running a party boat, which is what you were making generalizations about. Honestly, a "30 count" before you set the hook? Never heard of that. Have you tried the rig you suggest party boats use? Any success?

[NoLimit]

The next thing, they will be telling us to use no hooks.

Recreational fishing does nothing to fish stocks. Lot of fish go by without biting and those that do are a drop in the bucket.

Its like the Parkway rest stop - most cars just drive by without feeding.

Commercial fishing is like putting a net across the Parkway and then a couple schoolyards for good measure.

[reason162]

Originally Posted by fishguy

Not for nothing who were you talking too? When you post stuff you pretty much are saying what you say to the whole internet universe. That's how it works. Capt. Ron made a valid point about how he runs his business, the business of running a party boat, which is what you were making generalizations about. Honestly, a "30 count" before you set the hook? Never heard of that. Have you tried the rig you suggest party boats use? Any success?

It's basically a hi-lo rig w/o the bucktail at the bottom. It works well.

You've never heard of the 30 count? It's an approximation. I've witnessed a 10 count, a 30 count, a 50 count, and of course: the count that starts after a good 30 second chew from a 10 inch fish...hard to detect through a fiberglass baseball bat and an 8 oz sinker in a ripping drift.

I've never fished on Ron's boat. Maybe short fluke never swallow hooks on his rental rods, I wouldn't know. I do see a ton of swallowed hooks on the party boat trips I've been on.

[fishguy]

Originally Posted by reason162

It's basically a hi-lo rig w/o the bucktail at the bottom. It works well.

You've never heard of the 30 count? It's an approximation. I've witnessed a 10 count, a 30 count, a 50 count, and of course: the count that starts after a good 30 second chew from a 10 inch fish...hard to detect through a fiberglass baseball bat and an 8 oz sinker in a ripping drift.

I've never fished on Ron's boat. Maybe short fluke never swallow hooks on his rental rods, I wouldn't know. I do see a ton of swallowed hooks on the party boat trips I've been on.

Sooooo, you are suggesting that party boats use a 2 hook bucktail rig on the rental rods?

A 50 count? That's special.

[Charlie B]

Lower the size limit so you could keep the gut hooked fish and it becomes part of your bag limit. When you reach your bag limit stop fishing. Problem solved...Charlie

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by reason162

It's basically a hi-lo rig w/o the bucktail at the bottom. It works well.

You've never heard of the 30 count? It's an approximation. I've witnessed a 10 count, a 30 count, a 50 count, and of course: the count that starts after a good 30 second chew from a 10 inch fish...hard to detect through a fiberglass baseball bat and an 8 oz sinker in a ripping drift.

I've never fished on Ron's boat. Maybe short fluke never swallow hooks on his rental rods, I wouldn't know. I do see a ton of swallowed hooks on the party boat trips I've been on.

Ridiculous ! Everyone knows you have to count to 34 or it does not work lol Your post is "convoluted" like all the other ones.

[bunker dunker]

this is the time when we start to argue between ourselves and not look at the the real problem .i have no problem with any one making a living until they
don't want to share.sounds like they want everything for themselves and the only way to do that is to get rid of the rec peeps. it will always be a struggle.