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Old 02-02-2010, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: WINTER FLOUNDER MORE LOST$$$$$please read

In the early spring, I'd rather go after ling and blackfish; definitely the case this year.

Last season, even with a reasonable bag limit, I didn't go out for flounder because the reports were so poor. There isn't much doubt that this fishery needs to rebuild.

I really don't mind leaving the flounder alone for a while, as long as the commercials have been constrained as well.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:52 PM
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I agree with Martys I also rather fish for ling and blackfish. Maybe some of the captains could throw in a couple of hours of winter flounder before ling and blackfish. All of our recreational fisherman are going to find different ways to catch fish WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP!!!
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:55 PM
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I'll still fish for them. Cost is ridiculous when you could keep 10; now it's gonna be crazy. But it's fun and tradition. And you rarely gut hook them so the ones you throw back will live.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:08 PM
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Good posts by everyone!!!

But even though Blackfish Doug, Brian Sea nymph, and others feel this way(which i am happy to hear) there is still a majority of other anglers who dont...

Its not all about what the angler take home, but most atleast want a chance to put a catch together to eat under reasonable limits... Flounder is a table fish.

I can tell just from our bookings (and other charter boats i talk to from here to ny) which now is mostly Bottomfishing (Blackfish ling cod) for april last year mostly flounder. A Bunch of Groups that fished for flounder last year opted for a bottom fish trip latter in the year. I cant fault them.

We love floundering and we will still sail a few flounder trips... some of our regular still wanna go and if the wind blows its better than sitting home... but with that said it will still only be prob be about 1/4 the amount of trip normal.

Again I agree flounder fishing is not what it once was... But we dont fish at all in the fall... lost 23 days on the spring end... then a bag limit (which i though was good) and now 2 fish...5 fish would have atleast gave us a shot a season

Anyone who knows us knows we give a long day and fish hard... We love to mix it up... never mind trying for another specie even if we already had a great day on another... Its tough times i want our customers $ to go a long way for them.

With that said it wont be easy trying to mix bag Blackfish out in the ocean and still have enough time in the day to flounder fish in the bay at least in our area. Time tides worms chum etc... Not saying it wont or cant be done but for boats in our area it prob wont be an easy task.

i think the point the other capts or atleast my point is it will another regulation that will cut right into the pockets of the partyboats, charterboats, and tackle shops.

Add that to Losing a couple days of fluking, seabass cloure, no weakfish....less porgies etc.
Less days to fish, Less to fish for etc

Stripers and Blackfish will be next because it will all we will be able to target putting alot of added pressure on them.

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one thing i worry about is how much added pressure will this put on the spawning tog in the spring
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[QUOTE=jmurr711]one thing i worry about is how much added pressure will this put on the spawning tog in the spring
Forget about the blackfish, the bass dont have a chance. We have bin destroying those stocks before all of this BS Regulations an now they are done. 1 bass per person entire coast an F the bonus tag would be nice.
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:04 PM
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I might do a few too only with FAMILY charters who can take home a bag of fillets that would be enough to feed a family. I'm not sure OB trips will work - if there's interest I will do a couple of trips. I will put it in my next newsletter for February just to throw it out there, if it looks good, we'll do a few.
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Capt. Allen can vouch for me I love flounder fishing and it is my favorite for fishing and eating

As far as chartering this year maybe 1 trip or 2 not going all out because of the limit but still interested in the Family Charters

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one thing i worry about is how much added pressure will this put on the spawning tog in the spring
Forget about the blackfish, the bass dont have a chance. We have bin destroying those stocks before all of this BS Regulations an now they are done. 1 bass per person entire coast an F the bonus tag would be nice.

that is your opinion are yours only.you are giving in to what we are fighting for!!!1 bass is a disaster for the for hire boats on the whole east coast.join stripers forever tree hugging a holes and leave to rest to people that really care.it has nothing to do with this post and i take exception to it.i hope i made my self clear.!!!!!!!!!are you on the bus feb 24????
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Forget about the blackfish, the bass dont have a chance. We have bin destroying those stocks before all of this BS Regulations an now they are done. 1 bass per person entire coast an F the bonus tag would be nice.
Bucktail
Please clarify who "we" are that have been destroying bass stocks, why you feel that way and what documentation you have to back up that "we" are actually doing so. The reason for going to Washington is to fight opinion vs science and fact.
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