Striped Bass Slot

[Capt Sal]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

Hmmm. Not sure about you but I happen to think a state that taxes its people to the extent NJ does has money to do whatever they think is priority. Enforcing regulations is simply not one of their priorities and throwing money at it is not going to change that mentality. This is not about money, it’s about desire.

Does that mean we have to break the law to keep a fish? What ever happened to NJ being a producer state? Seems like NJ is paying the price for the failure of the the other Producer States.There are more Stripers now than 20 years ago and a one fish limit? What more do they want?

[Skolmann]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

If the regulations allowed it, the regulations are to blame not anglers.

Just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD.

For whatever reason IMO, the northeastern angler feels the need to be the dock, internet hero boasting and pounding their chest to show the world just hoiw great an angler they are.

I’ve said for years that the northeastern angler should follow the example of the southeastern angler-Routinely, they will keep 1 or 2 for the table per trip even though the regs state the can keep more.

[Broad Bill]

I didn't say they should, I said they have the right to but it's a personal choice. Regulations should take into consideration harvest levels a fishery can sustain as well as what age classes they wanted harvested to insure adequate recruitment levels to perpetuate the stock.

I don't at all agree with the comparison between northeastern and southeastern anglers, the striped bass population and Chesapeake fluke stock are just two examples of complete exploitation by southern states that ruined their fisheries.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Another article on the emergency measures and according to the quote from the NJDEP the Striped Bass Bonus program remains intact https://www.saltwatersportsman.com/n...tions-enacted/

[Broad Bill]

The regulations for striped bass were the same in 2021 as they were in 2022. If the stock is in such trouble, and the Chesapeake stock along the coast as has been stated is causing such declines for southern and northern states with ocean based landings, how could the harvest per the attached article have doubled in 2022 over 2021. Harvest is landings and doesn't include discard mortality so if the stock has declined to a point where emergency measures have to be implemented, how is it possible under the same regulations and possession limits that harvest doubled year over year. MRIP and phantom fishing efforts statistics strike again.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by Broad Bill

The regulations for striped bass were the same in 2021 as they were in 2022. If the stock is in such trouble, and the Chesapeake stock along the coast as has been stated is causing such declines for southern and northern states with ocean based landings, how could the harvest per the attached article have doubled in 2022 over 2021. Harvest is landings and doesn't include discard mortality so if the stock has declined to a point where emergency measures have to be implemented, how is it possible under the same regulations and possession limits that harvest doubled year over year. MRIP and phantom fishing efforts statistics strike again.

Yep hard to believe that MRIP is the best available science… Spin the MRIP wheel and sometimes you win and sometimes you loose. Nothing scientific about it.

[pectoralfin]

Could someone please explain how and where they get their information from.
Has anyone been asked by a representative from NMFS or filled out a survey form regarding SB? And how does this affect commercial fishing for SB? Did they reduce their quota?

[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

Yep hard to believe that MRIP is the best available science… Spin the MRIP wheel and sometimes you win and sometimes you loose. Nothing scientific about it.

Agreed with one caveat. When the MRIP wheel spins, recs always lose.

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Duffman

If you ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE all the money collected from a license would go back the fishing community, I’d be all for it

But this is NJ and that license fee would only go to line someone’s pockets.

Who cares where the few dollar license money goes .
It allows you to get ear marked money back on our portion of the federal excise tax that can only be used for salt water fishing improvements .

But instead of a few dollar license , guys pay 25 bucks a weekend that could be free ramps instead .

Nj salt anglers pay millions a year in excise tax , but won’t spend 2 bucks to get it back .


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[Broad Bill]

Originally Posted by hammer4reel

Who cares where the few dollar license money goes .
It allows you to get ear marked money back on our portion of the federal excise tax that can only be used for salt water fishing improvements .

But instead of a few dollar license , guys pay 25 bucks a weekend that could be free ramps instead .

Nj salt anglers pay millions a year in excise tax , but won’t spend 2 bucks to get it back .


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For starters, I care. New Jersey recreational anglers shouldn't have to spend a penny to get earmarked money back. I thought that was the point of funds being earmarked. Where does it say a saltwater license, if introduced, would be $2 and where does it say money raised from a saltwater license would cause excise taxes to be used exclusively for salt water fishing improvements. Remember the billion in federally funded Covid relief earmarked for small businesses and people suffering the effects of the Pandemic until Murphy decided he'd rather see it in the state's coffers. Free boat ramps, personally I don't think you'll ever see that in New Jersey in your lifetime saltwater license or not.