Not Good News

[Capt Joe]

RFA ! HELLO! Are you out there? Offering something other than platitudes?

[cukes]

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

Not good at all and same from channel 12 news http://www.news12.com/story/42022877...arinas-to-open

Don’t see why charter and party boats pose more of a threat than private boats if they’re practicing and held accountable to the same social distancing measures. This makes no sense to me.

keep voting for power hungry Democrats and they will control your life, look what's going on they refuse to help small business and workers, this is a shame

[pcheesesteak]

Can anyone who has a boat in Monmouth Cove Marina comment as to whether Monmouth Cove is open again? I'm in the racks. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Gerry Zagorski

Not good at all and same from channel 12 news http://www.news12.com/story/42022877...arinas-to-open.

[Capt John]

Here is the info I copied from a NY publication...

Chartered watercraft services or rentals will not be allowed. As with any other restaurants in the three states, restaurant activity at these sites must be limited to take-out or delivery only. This announcement aligns the policies of the three states on this particular service.

Now this begs a question maybe Gerry or someone else can take a stab at to answer....

Does "chartered watercraft services" encompass party boats? or just 6 pack operations or both.

Like to get a clarification on this. Tried digging thru various NJ and NY web sites for this and no luck so far.

But let's get real here...would any charter or party boat captain want to take responsibility for getting someone sick and maybe dying through transmission from a "asymptomatic" carrier? (A person who has no symptoms but is a "hot" as hell spreading Covid19.) I really don't think so. I know I wouldn't...just my view and how I run my business.

Look, I love to fish just as much as the next guy. But this virus is some really serious shit. If you doubt that, pick any hospital and take a walk through their ER/ICU unit and tell me what you see. Did you ever see someone die of suffocation? Or see someone with a ventilator shoved down his throat?

This disease knows nothing if you're black or white, dem. or rep, north or south, it will kill you just the same. Some very serious shit....just be careful especially if you're a male 60 y/o or older like me.

[Duffman]

Originally Posted by pcheesesteak

Can anyone who has a boat in Monmouth Cove Marina comment as to whether Monmouth Cove is open again? I'm in the racks. Thanks.

Waiting on an answer myself. Its a marina but also a county park so how does that fall into this new executive order?

shit gets more confusing by the day

[hammer4reel]

Originally Posted by Capt John

Here is the info I copied from a NY publication...

Chartered watercraft services or rentals will not be allowed. As with any other restaurants in the three states, restaurant activity at these sites must be limited to take-out or delivery only. This announcement aligns the policies of the three states on this particular service.

Now this begs a question maybe Gerry or someone else can take a stab at to answer....

Does "chartered watercraft services" encompass party boats? or just 6 pack operations or both.

Like to get a clarification on this. Tried digging thru various NJ and NY web sites for this and no luck so far.

But let's get real here...would any charter or party boat captain want to take responsibility for getting someone sick and maybe dying through transmission from a "asymptomatic" carrier? (A person who has no symptoms but is a "hot" as hell spreading Covid19.) I really don't think so. I know I wouldn't...just my view and how I run my business.

Look, I love to fish just as much as the next guy. But this virus is some really serious shit. If you doubt that, pick any hospital and take a walk through their ER/ICU unit and tell me what you see. Did you ever see someone die of suffocation? Or see someone with a ventilator shoved down his throat?

This disease knows nothing if you're black or white, dem. or rep, north or south, it will kill you just the same. Some very serious shit....just be careful especially if you're a male 60 y/o or older like me.

Exactly.
T has a compromised system due to extremely bad asthma.
I worked from home for over 2 weeks just so I could be able to fish with her in our boat .

As much as I want to fish with my normal crew , I won’t just because I wouldnt be able to fish with her .

Anyone can be a carrier at this point .
As you said this virus is for real .
Hackensack’s most ever on ventilators was 30 before this . Last week they had over 400.
And that’s with all the shut downs going on .

Hopefully much of this will pass in the next few weeks , and we get some new type of normal before summer .

.

[Flygaff]

Originally Posted by Duffman

Waiting on an answer myself. Its a marina but also a county park so how does that fall into this new executive order?

shit gets more confusing by the day

I just spoke with Chet at Monmouth Cove Marina. He will not know anything until Monday afternoon. I am hopeful. I will be there in the morning working on the boat. Anything I hear I will pass along

[RBC67]

Even with marina's open
Personal water craft are still 2 people on a boat and supposed be family members
Also social distancing applies

Here's the current boating regulations for New Jersey announced April 3 by Governor Murphy.

April 3, 2020
Consistent with Governor Murphy's orders that all New Jerseyans practice social distancing in order to limit the spread of Coronavirus (COVID-19), anglers must fish alone or with immediate family members and cannot fish in groups of any size (no matter how small), either on land or by boat. A minimum six-foot social distance between anglers must be maintained at all times. To disperse the fish and to help maintain social distancing among anglers, trout were released early and the NJ Fish and Game Council opened trout stocked waters for catch and release only for trout, from April 1 through April 10. Season, size, and creel limits for all other species apply, as well as any gear restrictions.

So again tell me how any commercial operator is sailing currently in NJ with more than just the Captain or immediate family members which you know is not the case. My heart goes out to the commercial sector but at the same time my heart goes out to the recreational sector and every business being decimated by this virus not to mention the risk of contagion commercial operators pose by having their own set of rules. Not to mention the fact their markets have been destroyed so a lot of their catch is being wasted. Question is how is the commercial sectors risk / reward model with this virus any different then the recreational risk reward model. Both impact the economy, both require social interaction so why would one sector have different guidelines as it relates to the health crisis and safety or lock down precautions. They're potential carriers of the infection no different than anyone else. I understand the exception made for essential workers, commercial operators are not essential workers even more so when you consider their markets have been destroyed both domestic and internationally.

[Duffman]

Flygaff..sent ya a PM Thanks