Party Boat pool "irregularity"?

[AndyS]

Years ago I was on a very crowded party boat when the mates pulled a large fish out of the hold. I guess the mates won the pool. Stuff happens all the time. How many nights when the "mates" won the night bluefish trip pool because the majority of the fares were either drunk or passed out. Not saying this is common practice but I worked deck before, I know what can go on.

[bunker dunker]

what ever happened to "due Process".you think you got scamed???you wait to air it here on a public site instead of taking it up with the capt & crew.this is
nothing more the a fresh pile of BS.this is how bad things happen.this is not a discussion,it an open invite to bash party boat capts and crews.

[dfish28]

Does anyone want me to call the whaaambulance?

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

what ever happened to "due Process".you think you got scamed???you wait to air it here on a public site instead of taking it up with the capt & crew.this is
nothing more the a fresh pile of BS.this is how bad things happen.this is not a discussion,it an open invite to bash party boat capts and crews.

Sorry, but you could not be more wrong.. I have a lot of respect for guys that work the sea daily. however it IS a business based on customer satisfaction.. Therefore customers can voice concerns in a forum of their peers.
I never named the boat, nor did I bitch about it during my initial report.. I bashed no one except the mate that was crooked in my opinion, based on close to 5 decades of fishing on for hire boats.
I personally will never again go on the boat in question, but never asked anyone else to do the same.

The number of replies to this thread and the fact that i have had several PM's from members enjoying this discussion would seem to indicate its a valid topic, and that a lot of members here deem it as perfectly acceptable.
Don't like it?... Why bother replying?
Its just a mid winter discussion thread to pass the time.
No one forced you to join it, why put down those members that are willingly contributing to it?... bob

[Capt. Debbie]

You're 100% right. It stirs interest and a good information filled discussion with real fishermen. Our peers, And it is hard trying to get even without naming the boat.

Some people have opinions. Some think YOU should not have an opinion if they don't one. Now that's funny!!!!

Of course there's dishonest people. But what do you do to avoid getting screwed by them should you meet them? I found this informative and so did 5 pages of fishermen discussions.

Originally Posted by bulletbob

Sorry, but you could not be more wrong.. I have a lot of respect for guys that work the sea daily. however it IS a business based on customer satisfaction.. Therefore customers can voice concerns in a forum of their peers.
I never named the boat, nor did I bitch about it during my initial report.. I bashed no one except the mate that was crooked in my opinion, based on close to 5 decades of fishing on for hire boats.
I personally will never again go on the boat in question, but never asked anyone else to do the same.

The number of replies to this thread and the fact that i have had several PM's from members enjoying this discussion would seem to indicate its a valid topic, and that a lot of members here deem it as perfectly acceptable.
Don't like it?... Why bother replying?
Its just a mid winter discussion thread to pass the time.
No one forced you to join it, why put down those members that are willingly contributing to it?... bob

[Chrisper4694]

in my experience, people who are low enough to cheat aren't worth talking to or reasoning with anyway. I def would of recommended saying something though to test the waters, if the mate blew you off I would've left it at that and then never returned with my business to them and warned anyone else that i knew about the situation. plenty of great, honest anglers and crews around and the other ones don't deserve our business imo.

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by Chrisper4694

in my experience, people who are low enough to cheat aren't worth talking to or reasoning with anyway. I def would of recommended saying something though to test the waters, if the mate blew you off I would've left it at that and then never returned with my business to them and warned anyone else that i knew about the situation. plenty of great, honest anglers and crews around and the other ones don't deserve our business imo.

agreed, 100%.. The guy in question was an exception no doubt in my mind.. The Main thing I learned here, is that I was more of a wuss than I should have been, but I don't typically call people out in anger any longer at my advancing age,, especially strangers.

With this discussion I have found that most guys would have at least questioned the outcome, and perhaps got the captain involved... I hope there's not a next time, but if so, I will be better prepared.. hell I am seldom close to catching a pool contending fish anyway. bob

[bunker dunker]

dose no good to speculate period.you will never know now what happened.learn from it and move on.pot stirring just breeds bad things.

[bulletbob]

Originally Posted by bunker dunker

dose no good to speculate period.you will never know now what happened.learn from it and move on.pot stirring just breeds bad things.

c'mon bd, lighten up.. Its just a discussion. I do know what happened, thats what the post is about.. Kindly give me just a bit of credit.. I have been at this a very long time, and even had articles published in a well known magazine about bottom fishing, I have seen a LOT of fish over the years.. I can tell when one fish is bigger and heavier than the other..
I never had to "move on", because it wasn't that big a deal.. I got beat out of a few bucks, big deal happens a lot to a lot of people.. I just thought it would make a good mid winter discussion, and have found that a lot of other anglers can relate similar instances of their own... No need for anger, its just a fishing forum thread.. Doesn't mean all that much in the grand scheme......bob

[Madcrab]

Here is one when the mate collects all the fares and pool money. Instead of going directly to the captain, he makes a detour to closed door room. After ten minutes he appears and go up to the captain. Fishy!

How about when the mate and captain sell their catches to the fishermen. And if one of the fish is a pool winner. The captain and mate split the pool. And use that fisherman name for the winner of the pool.

A mate will let the fisherman a free pass on the pool but if he caught the pool fish, the mate gets to keep the pool prize.

The best way is the way Frances Fleet does it. The fare and pool is collected at the shop, pool money has to be cash. The fare's names are written on the paper, Next to the names will be a check mark for the pool. The pool money is wrapped by the list names and it's handed to the captain. When there is a pool fish the mate will ask for your pool ticket. When it is a close call the Captain makes the final call
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