Worst Mate Ever!! Captain ?

[Tpkc2]

If this were my charter, plain and simple, I would have addressed the Captain and the mate would have got zero! Never heard of a mate fishing on a charter perhaps on a party boat! Might be 2 sides of this story but no mate will ever get a dime from me or my buddies when he fishes and has the gall to keep the fish he catches on my dime! Again, not sure of all the details!

[snprsnfr]

Capt. and mate should have given some help with blackfishing technique ,very rude to be mugging fish from paying customers, only leave a tip based on quality of service,No service equals no tip,.Maybe charter boats should post the type of service that will be given and the type of behavior that is expected of its charter clients.I had a few bad experiences and lots of great ones,I feel the web sites offer some level of accountability .The worst was when a NS boat captain told me "you are only paying for the boat ride back",and another after losing a rig the mate handed me a box of hooks and continued texting.

[Chrisper4694]

if you want to know who it is pm the poster...he already told me who it is cause I wanted to know and I asked. I asked because I don't want to ever give them any business and so that I make sure my friends don't give them business either. pretty simple.

[snprsnfr]

i would not condemn any capt. or mate based on one bad post,if you are in the position to charter a boat maybe you should have a list of what you expect and the type of service you will require based on the ability of the charter guests.I think the charter organizer should be clear and precise as to what they are willing to pay for.Just saying for future charters

[Harpoon]

Originally Posted by Chrisper4694

if you want to know who it is pm the poster...he already told me who it is cause I wanted to know and I asked. I asked because I don't want to ever give them any business and so that I make sure my friends don't give them business either. pretty simple.

What did the captain say about the trip?

[dfish28]

Aside: sometimes when the mate and/or Capt fish... they help you-the charter fill your limits because it's slow, and/or not all can get the code right to be dialed in to catch the boat limit, if personally go home with MEAT than just go home saying I had bites but couldn't get them hooked, after 12 secured fillets for each fare, then I would say something... as for the bait, that's a whole other story, not sure what's that about... live and learn- tight lines forever!

[Humanzee]

I know I am a new guy here as far as posts go, but like many, I've been lurking for a while.

This site is well run, respected within the fishing community, and a plethora of information. It has sponsors from marinas, 6 packs, party boats, tackle stores, the list goes on.

I get that having sponsors is necessary to the survival of the site. But I also don't get why there should be preferential treatment towards them, unless its an agreement between the sponsors and Gerry which does not tolerate naming a sponsor boat? I don't know...

There are always 2 sides of a story, and somewhere in between is the truth. We can all PM the OP and ask him for the name of the boat. I've fished with sponsor boats, and I've formed my opinions on whether I'd go with them again, despite what anyone else has to say about them.

So why can't this be handled in "manly" fashion? Call out the boat, captain, and mate, and let them tell their side of the story, and allow people to make their decisions from that?

When someone has a great trip and they post about it and give the name, that seems to be acceptable. But if someone had a bad trip with these guys? They not "allowed" to say something negative?

[PocketFisherman]

The site has rules and there are enough websites - like Yelp out there that if the poster truly wanted to get the word out about poor service he would post it there.

2 sides to every story.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Originally Posted by Humanzee

I know I am a new guy here as far as posts go, but like many, I've been lurking for a while.

This site is well run, respected within the fishing community, and a plethora of information. It has sponsors from marinas, 6 packs, party boats, tackle stores, the list goes on.

I get that having sponsors is necessary to the survival of the site. But I also don't get why there should be preferential treatment towards them, unless its an agreement between the sponsors and Gerry which does not tolerate naming a sponsor boat? I don't know...

There are always 2 sides of a story, and somewhere in between is the truth. We can all PM the OP and ask him for the name of the boat. I've fished with sponsor boats, and I've formed my opinions on whether I'd go with them again, despite what anyone else has to say about them.

So why can't this be handled in "manly" fashion? Call out the boat, captain, and mate, and let them tell their side of the story, and allow people to make their decisions from that?

When someone has a great trip and they post about it and give the name, that seems to be acceptable. But if someone had a bad trip with these guys? They not "allowed" to say something negative?

Thanks for the compliment on the site Humanzee.

As you all might imagine, it's a very fine balance here between viewer and sponsor interests. Unlike sites like Trip Advisor or Yelp, I rely solely on sponsor dollars to support this site.

As far as handling things in a "manly" fashion, all that goes away when it comes to the internet and I'm guilty of it myself. You sometimes say things online you might otherwise not have said if you were standing in front of someone. The anonymity is another thing... People know who our sponsors are because when they post here their business name and website addresses are posted. Not true of all of us that contribute here. That's why one of my general rules is if you are going to call someone out here by name then you should publish your name too. That's only fair right?......

The other thing is I don't want these sorts of posts to dominate the site and act as a lighteng rod followed by a shit show with emotions and people taking sides and dividing us. That's why I take down the political posts... Great for traffic but not the sort of traffic I want this site to be noted for. I also don't want to be responsible for ruining someone's business (sponsor or otherwise) by allowing this sort of stuff on the site... If their normal way of doing business is as bad as one post seems to portray it, the word is going to get out and they won't be around for very long anyhow.

And yes, there are 2 sides to every story and for some of the reasons mentioned above, I'd rather not have them aired here.

You might not like it but I figured you'd at least appreciate and respect my perspective on these sorts of things.

Thanks guys.... Back to fishing and positive stuff...

[Humanzee]

Well said, sir. I get it. And I agree.

See, I'm manly enough to admit when my perception is wrong. Then again, I'm divorced, so lotta good that did me!