Trout Meeting

[Mike M]

Originally Posted by Wilson

Why would you....we don't catch @#!*%

Nice to meet you too.

My 2 cents on this whole disease thing is it's being hyped way too much.
This naturally occurring disease is bad for fish but not humans. It has been around for a 100 years, and was yearly occurrence in the Hackettstown hatchery.
Pennsylvania offered to buy are disease carrier fish so they can stock them anywhere in Pa.!!!!!
The only way to almost insure against furunculosis is to enclose the entire raceway area and re-plumb the water supply so there is no cross contamination.

The state can't even fix a boat dock on RVV, how are they gonna pull off a hatchery re-build

You and Andy catch your share of fish I agree with you 100% on the disease situation The old hatchery had disease outbreaks all the time. Its a part of nature.

[FASTEDDIE29]

I wouldn't mind paying 5-10 dollars more for a fishing license. I'd rather pay more for the safety of NJ's hatchery fish than watch them go to waste. We have it easy when it comes to fishing licenses. I've bought a PA, NY, Maine and Vermont license all in one season. Fishing gets pricey when you go out of state. Being passionate can be costly but 33 dollars for a NJ Fishing license is dirt cheap considering the fishery and diversity our little state has. If there was a way I could help I would.

[gwl2oneida]

I was hoping to hit wanawue river since its so close. My non resident license wasn't to cheap with the addition of that stamp.

[Wilson]

Originally Posted by gwl2oneida

I was hoping to hit wanaque river since its so close. My non resident license wasn't to cheap with the addition of that stamp.

They lowered the price this year to maybe $60.00 but a NY non resident license with no endorsements is $70.00. $54.00 non resident with a Trout stamp for NJ is in line with PA Just saying

[Dave B.]

Originally Posted by Wilson

Why would you....we don't catch shit

Nice to meet you too.

My 2 cents on this whole disease thing is it's being hyped way too much.
This naturally occurring disease is bad for fish but not humans. It has been around for a 100 years, and was yearly occurrence in the Hackettstown hatchery.
Pennsylvania offered to buy are disease carrier fish so they can stock them anywhere in Pa.!!!!!
The only way to almost insure against furunculosis is to enclose the entire raceway area and re-plumb the water supply so there is no cross contamination.

The state can't even fix a boat dock on RVV, how are they gonna pull off a hatchery re-build

Agree completely Wilson, far too much hype and holler about a little germ. As you say Hackettestown stocked exposed and treated trout statewide for nearly 2 decades. Hell, in addition to Furunculosis they regularly battled IPNV there! These 2 pathogens were the main reason they brought in brookies from the federal hatchery in PA for many years to offset what was lost at Hayford. They (the diseases) are also why not a single fish from Hackettestown was ever introduced to Pequest when it went online in 1980.
Anyone who was around to enjoy the 1st fall stocking in '84 when they emptied out Hackettestown should have some outstanding trout memories! Literally tons of fish, all 3 species, all sizes, and active ascan be right through Nov into Dec! The odds are strong we'll never see the likes of that again!

Oh yeah, and PA stocks exposed and treated fish statewide every year. Anyone ever hear of an outbreak as a result?

[Almaink]

Does F&G have a clue what they are going to do? I just checked F&G web page to see Mercer Lake is now getting 8,000 trout pre season, it was 4,000 last week. But when I checked the allocation PDF Lake Mercer wasn't even on the list? I wonder what list is correct?
It is on this list
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2..._changes14.pdf

But missing from this one.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2...on14-sched.pdf

I also question the wisdom of dumping 8,000 trout in a lake that is managed for muskies. The Assunpink is right there why not put them in there instead, or put more in the other local lakes that get stocked?

[Eskimo]

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Originally Posted by Mike M

I will be wearing an NJFishing tee shirt.

Are NJFishing t-shirts still available?

Fishing gets pricey when you go out of state.

It sure does. I paid $50 last month for a Florida non-resident saltwater-only license.



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[Dave B.]

Originally Posted by Almaink

Does F&G have a clue what they are going to do? I just checked F&G web page to see Mercer Lake is now getting 8,000 trout pre season, it was 4,000 last week. But when I checked the allocation PDF Lake Mercer wasn't even on the list? I wonder what list is correct?
It is on this list
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2..._changes14.pdf

But missing from this one.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/pdf/2...on14-sched.pdf

I also question the wisdom of dumping 8,000 trout in a lake that is managed for muskies. The Assunpink is right there why not put them in there instead, or put more in the other local lakes that get stocked?

The omission of Mercer Lake on the one list was a typo. The other list which was posted on the Div. website on Feb 21 had Mercer listed for 8,000 as it still does. You may have mis-read it initially but I have the Feb 21 printout in hand showing the 8,000 number for Mercer. I also have a copy of the proposed list direct from the Div showing Mercer recieving 8,000. Hopefully there are no other mis-leading typos, I haven't checked the entire list myself. Given all that our limited Freshwater Fisheries staff have had to deal with throughout this entire situation I think I can forgive them a minor typo here and there.
Naturally the muskies are going to have a blast chowing on those trout but some of them will find their way upstream into the creek around Edinburg.
As for the other area waters if you check the list against last years you'll see they are all getting much higher allocations already. Some examples, Assunpink Crk 2013 Season total-1,380...2014 Total-2,280 Rosedale Lk 2013-1,520...2014 Total-2,470 Stony Brk 2013-2,930...2014-3,800 Colonial Lk 2013-1,210...2014-2,030
Also keep in mind the bulk of these fish are going in pre-season although the in-season numbers are slightly higher than usual too in most cases. Some pre-season numbers...Assunpink-1,400 Colonial Lk-1,330 Rosedale Lk-1,390 Stony Brk-2,440
I hope this helps to answer some of your questions. If you check the entire list you'll find that the normal numbers on just about all of the normally stocked non-trout waters are scheduled to be greatly exceeded this spring. Ought to make for some fast action fishing for a good while in alot of places!

[Polelock]

Catch, but do not eat from non trout waters... In all the documents and power points, I did not read anything about Florfenicol which is used to treat the fish...
From the Div, "The bacterium does not pose any health risks to humans. It is not advisable however, to eat any species of fish
or wildlife that appears to be diseased."

Here is the MSDS Link on the antibiotic.
http://www.fws.gov/fisheries/aadap/0...lorfenicol.pdf

Lets just keep our fingers crossed that rolling the dice now doesn't come back to get us 5 years down the road...

[Almaink]

Thanks for the reply Dave B.. Polelock I read that MSDS link but it said nothing about eating fish treated with Florfenicol, nor can I find anything online about the health risks of eating these fish.
Was anything said during any of the meetings about it?