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[rumster]

Buddy, your higher than thou tone is quite funny.... It may impress your fellow tree huggers, but not me. Your one size fit all argument where you turned the original post regarding cow nose rays, that may or may not cause damage, into a plea to save sharks is not what the original post was about. Yes, this is a public forum and if you choose you can rant about what ever you would like.
As a previous poster has already brought to your attention there are no regulations regarding cow nose rays, so promoting your green agenda will always draw fire. The fishing industry has enough regulations by the government based upon faulty data, without goofs like you looking to be equally irresponsible by looking to add more regulations.
I personally, am a conservation minded angler that is fortunate enough to fish several times a week for multiple species throughout the year.
If you feel the need to beat this topic to death lets spare everyone and just send me a pm, opposed to jumping on the soap box. Happy Holidays.

Originally Posted by rumster

Before you know it, guys will be defending doggies too!!! Maybe we should allow someone to voice an opinion without responding with negative remarks that suits their views. There is obviously a problem with many species that create an in balance in the eco system and have a devastating impact.

You refer to me as holier than thou but your reply incorporates the same negativity the body of your post accuses me of. I guess your a "Do as I say not as I do" kind of guy. When you figure out your logic maybe we can have an intellectual conversation.

[rumster]

I am very impressed with your intellectual prowess.... How about contributing to the forum constructively rather than high jacking someones post. What a dick!

Originally Posted by rumster

Buddy, your higher than thou tone is quite funny.... It may impress your fellow tree huggers, but not me. Your one size fit all argument where you turned the original post regarding cow nose rays, that may or may not cause damage, into a plea to save sharks is not what the original post was about. Yes, this is a public forum and if you choose you can rant about what ever you would like.
As a previous poster has already brought to your attention there are no regulations regarding cow nose rays, so promoting your green agenda will always draw fire. The fishing industry has enough regulations by the government based upon faulty data, without goofs like you looking to be equally irresponsible by looking to add more regulations.
I personally, am a conservation minded angler that is fortunate enough to fish several times a week for multiple species throughout the year.
If you feel the need to beat this topic to death lets spare everyone and just send me a pm, opposed to jumping on the soap box. Happy Holidays.

Again look in the mirror dude, you're making a fool of yourself. Show me where I said there were any regulations regarding cow nose rays in my post. Sharks were brought up because if you bothered to read the article in the link you'd see one of the reasons sited was the over fishing of sharks. Point being don't solve the problem by addressing the effect, address the cause. And please tell me where I suggested adding another regulation, you won't because I didn't.

So before ignoring your own advise and going off half cocked on someone's comments, get your facts correct before making unintelligent posts.

Originally Posted by rumster

I am very impressed with your intellectual prowess.... How about contributing to the forum constructively rather than high jacking someones post. What a dick!

Another internet muscleman.....just what the site needs!

[CubasFinest12]

Recreational fishing isn't going to harm a population. If draggers started netting those rays then the population would be taking some damage.

Originally Posted by CubasFinest12

Recreational fishing isn't going to harm a population. If draggers started netting those rays then the population would be taking some damage.

Cubas I completely agree recreational fishing will never destroy a fishery. I guess I just don't consider bow and arrow fishing the same as recreational fishing in the true sense of the word.

[Captain Rich]

Dakota

" Personally I think opening up the cow nose ray fishery to bow and arrow interests would be the beginning of opening it up to other salt water fisheries and I personally would not be for it[/QUOTE]"

??? Like bow hunting for tog ??? or maybe bluefish ???

"I guess I just don't consider bow and arrow fishing the same as recreational fishing in the true sense of the word."

I think bow hunters (and I am not) could really school you on how difficult their sport is.

Your points are sophomoric at best.

Capt. Rich,

Unlike Rumster I respect the fact that you have a different opinion. I'm sure bow hunters (which I also am not) could school me but if it's that difficult what's the point of introducing the petition to begin with if the powers to be don't believe it will significantly reduce the cow nose population. My point is the supposed problem was created by the almost complete destruction of the shark fishery which the article comments on. Focus on rebuilding the shark population and the ray problem goes away as opposed to trying to decimate another species which is exactly what will happen.

Yeah tuna and marlin as well. Maybe bass for starters or maybe fluke. Maybe we can start a bow hunting fishery for drum migrating along the coast every year as well. Personally I'm not a fan of salt water bow hunting and my opinion is you open it up to one species it'll be opened up to others......it's the way shit always starts. Or a bow hunting proposal will lead to a commercial fishery on rays and again another species will be destroyed so a few families can make a million dollars a year farming clams.

As they say, opinions are like *******s, everyone has one. You don't agree with mine, I respect that. You insult mine, you can kiss my ass.

[rumster]

Originally Posted by rumster

Before you know it, guys will be defending doggies too!!! Maybe we should allow someone to voice an opinion without responding with negative remarks that suits their views. There is obviously a problem with many species that create an in balance in the eco system and have a devastating impact.

Dakota, How about we discuss fishing reports rather than BS, which is what this site is for. Rather than do that, you chose my initial response to the original post, which was not even directed specifically to you to further promote your views. I even asked you if you wanted to continue this discussion, lets do it through a PM and spare everyone.
It`s your choice now, as it was then, to put the golden key board to rest rather than continuing to mention me in your posts.
If your a frustrated fisherman that likes to get on the soap box to run his mouth via a website you know where I live, I sent you a PM with my address. I am hoping that you have the intelligence to stop this here.
Happy Holidays and Tight Lines.