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Old 04-13-2014, 10:58 PM
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Sorry guys but i believe any government fishing habitat project is a way to MPA"S Marine protected areas ..that is their stated goal and by giving them access to build these it is surely gonna be aneasy way to keep us out of certain waters..The area around sandy hook reef is a proposed mpa as well as large portions of the shrewsbury rocks..in their original plan initiative..
Its a game they are playing don't believe it. Now if it was to happen on a state level with no federal involvement i might be for it.
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Guess i am right as is evidenced by the BLM's recent armed military standoff with a rancher and his family..anyone who supports these bogus feel good bills is a fool. This is a ruse to get us off the water, not to allow us to fish more, or better the habitat to increase our fishing opportunity. This is the ultimate closure to access bill!
We will have militarized gun toting BLM agents policing our waters if this nonsense is passed. How good will you feel about your support when staring down the barrel of a sniper rifle or 50 cal mounted to the deck of a boat boarding you for drifting into a HABITAT area that is closed now to rec fishing .
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This bill is a total misdirection and propaganda bill--designed with re-packaged language and feel good pretty language. It is a lie..when has any habitat or rec bill been truly designed for the anglers benifit. Never to almost never!
With government involvement and enforcement agencies like the Bureau of land management, The forestry service, National parks dept, Noaa, Nmfs, one really needs to ask Why land based management agencies? WHY IN HELL THE BLM! AND THE EPA--yea i want the epa involved they do so much for us now that is positive!
And if areas are designated national park areas you can be assured that you won't have access to fish these areas!
Read the words in the bill it states artificial reefs as habitat and tributaries and spawning grounds..Well the delaware river is a spawning ground for stripers in the spring..soon to be off limits if this bill goes thru.So is the raritan bay and the hudson.. Barnegat bay etc...

None of these agencies have proven to support the Rec anglers best interests in th past why trust federal involvement now? Has the administration drastically changed--has the left decided --well we were wrong lets let these folks catch fish?
These are people who honestly believe fishing is akin to animal cruelty.
This SALTY REC ANGLER HAS RECENTLY POPPED UP ON OTHER BOARDS AS WELL
spouting posts like "fisherman are all mean idiots and should be banned"
and "fishermen play with their food".
he has an agenda that is not true and not in our iintersts.
he is either one of the anti fishing lobby, a plant,or truly a misguided individual. But i am leaning towards a leftist do gooder who is full of crap and feel good ideas!
These articles are a means to close fishing access and huge areas of water to rec fisherman nationwide.
Be warned and do not vote for this bill.
Almost every time the feds have had these habitat type bills it's ended up in limited access or complete denial of access. To these folks reef building is habitat enhancement and needs to be protected by not allowing fishing, diving or even boat traffic to cross these areas.
Read between the lines on these fed sponsored bills and please try to understand the way leftists speak.
Many national publications and groups are behind this and i feel they are being mislead and don't understand the true agenda behind this legislation.IE(saltwater sportsman)
They pant some grass, trees, rocks and then deny the public access because it needs to be protected..while telling the public this is good for fishing habitat and will benifit the angler and public. How when i can't go near it?
These are the same forces that close entire areas of beaches because of a nestting bird (1) the piping plover. If a turtle is considered good for the habitat and is in limited numbers, you can be sure you won't be allowed to fish there--due to it has a benifit to the habitat.
Not GOOD! VOTE NO!
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Happy to respond to your inquiry, Tony…no agenda here whatsoever. SaltyRecAngler is the handle maintained by the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership (TRCP) and my name is Sarah. We are a pro-hunting, pro-fishing, and pro-conservation organization whose mission is to “Guarantee all Americans quality places to hunt and fish.” We are posting these links on these topics as food for thought and to help foster thinking about these issues. The articles stand on their own and we are simply sharing them in hopes they get read and encourage folks to make up their own minds about them. Thanks very much and look forward to sharing more links in the future!
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:38 PM
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This was posted on another forum earlier today.

Don't have anything to back it up it is just an FYI

Here's a little truth about the TRCP.....

The Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnershipbills its mission as “guaranteeing you a place to hunt and fish.” Described in the press as “Republican-leaning,” in reality TRCP seems to be little more than a camouflaged advocacy front for an alliance of environmental and left-wing interests. In 2012, 75% of TCRP donations came from a mere 8 donors.
TRCP is a spin-off of a Trout Unlimited project. In 2000, Trout Unlimited became a “fiscal sponsor” of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Alliance, which was a partnership of six groups including the Izaak Walton League of America and Trout Unlimited, two “green decoy” organizations. The left-wing Pew Charitable Trusts created TRCA, and Pew sent over $2 million to Trout Unlimited earmarked for the Alliance.
TRCA later applied for its own tax-exempt status under the name Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Project and became the separate organization that it is now.

Much about TRCP’s liberal roots remains the same today. TRCP’s partners include labor union groups such as the AFL-CIO, environmentalists, and other environmentalist front groups like Trout Unlimited, the Izaak Walton League of America, and Backcountry Hunters & Anglers. TRCP helps lead an alliance called “Sportsmen for Responsible Energy Development” with Trout Unlimited and the National Wildlife Federation.


Trout Unlimited, as a “fiscal sponsor” of the TRCP precursor Teddy Roosevelt Conservation Alliance, funneled more than $2 million from the Pew Charitable Trusts to the alliance. After TCRP received its own tax-exempt status in 2003, it found plenty of other environmentalist organizations to provide cash.
Far from a group relying on grassroots funding, TRCP relies on a handful of sugar daddies for financial backing. In 2010, a whopping 84% of TRCP donations came from only 10 donors. In 2011, TRCP received $2.3 million in grants from foundations—or nearly two-thirds of its income. And in 2012, 75% of TCRP donations came from a mere 8 donors.
TRCP has received 116 grants totaling $13 million since 2002. Major funders include the Turner Foundation ($2.3 million), the David and Lucile Packard Foundation ($835,000), the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation ($1.11 million), Pew Charitable Trusts ($1.55 million), and the Hewlett Foundation ($3.6 million). Other funders include the Joyce Foundation, McIntosh Foundation, the Thomas and Stacy Siebel Foundation, and the Knoblach Family Foundation.
There’s little doubt that the foundations veer strongly to the left, such as the Hewlett Foundation (gives millions to abortion provider Planned Parenthood), Joyce Foundation (gives millions to the anti-gun Violence Policy Center), and the David and Lucile Packard Foundation (gives millions to the pro-abortion NARAL).


TRCP claims to be primarily about benefiting hunters and other sportsmen, and the group’s press releases beat that drum incessantly, invoking the word “sportsmen” ad nauseam. But TRCP really places radical, anti-industry environmentalism as its top agenda item.
Initially, grants were made to TRCP’s predecessor under descriptions such as “general support to engage hunters and anglers in activities that protect fish and wildlife in the National forest.” More recent grants display a more obviously environmentalist bent. Consider the following descriptions offered by granting foundations:

•For TRCP’s “Energy Initiative Program” ($1,000,000, Hewlett Foundation, 2013)
•For TRCP’s “Energy Initiative Program” ($912,500, Hewlett Foundation, 2011)
• “Sportsmen for the conservation of the Chesapeake Bay.” ($40,000, Keith Campbell Foundation for the Environment, 2011)
•“For the sportsmen for responsible energy development project.” ($200,000, William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, 2010)
•“To engage hunters and fishers to advocate for federal conservation polices to improve water quality.” ($75,000, McKnight Foundation, 2010)
•“Climate.” ($175,000, David and Lucile Packard Foundation, 2010)
•“Climate and Agriculture” ($100,000, David and Lucile Packard Foundation, 2008)
•“Transportation Communications Campaign” ($50,000, Keith Campbell Foundation for the Environment, 2008)
•“To support the growing conservation campaign and the wetlands bill of rights campaign” ($100,000, McKnight Foundation, 2007)
•“Engage America’s 40 million sportsmen and sportswomen and make possible their active participation in the national conservation policy arena” ($10,000, Surnda Foundation, 2006)


TRCP claims to support the right to hunt and fish, and so it should be a vocal proponent of gun rights. But when pressed, TRCP couldn’t offer a stance. “[O]thers know far more than we do about the Second Amendment,” TRCP stated. Bizarrely, WyoFile reports that Whit Forsburgh, head of TRCP, “doesn’t view President Obama as a threat to gun rights.” TRCP’s non-stance is even stranger given that a portion of every sale of firearms and ammunition is earmarked for conservation programs.

TRCP is also behind the formation of the Union Sportsmen’s Alliance (USA). A joint effort with 20 labor unions, the Union Sportsmen’s Alliance’s goal is “to lure the political allegiance of gun-owning union members away from the NRA and its political agenda”—and presumably toward that of liberal-backing labor groups. “[A]bout a quarter of union members said they belonged to the National Rifle Association, an affiliation that displeases some Democratic union leaders,” The Washington Post reported. The effort came with $1.2 million in seed money from labor to TRCP. The Union Sportsmen’s Alliance claims to be in favor of the Second Amendment, yet TRCP has received $150,000 from the anti-gun Joyce Foundation. Barack Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation between 1994 and 2002.

Former TRCP board chairman Katie Distler Eckman (2011-13) is the former executive director of the Turner Foundation, founded by environmentalist Ted Turner.
TRCP president and CEO Whit Fosburgh worked at Trout Unlimited for 15 years, a group that like TRCP receives millions from environmentalist interests. Before that, Fosburgh worked for left-wing U.S. Senator Tom Daschle (D-SD).
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Glad Palmer and StriperSwiper posted on this..
Did some digging on my own and found below on a site called, "Green Decoys"
These are some seriously sneaky suckers.
I thought it might be just hype, but it's not.
Check it out.
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Background

TRCP is a spin-off of a Trout Unlimited project. In 2000, Trout Unlimited became a “fiscal sponsor” of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Alliance, which was a partnership of six groups including the Izaak Walton League of America and Trout Unlimited, two “green decoy” organizations. The left-wing Pew Charitable Trusts created TRCA, and Pew sent over $2 million to Trout Unlimited earmarked for the Alliance.

TRCA later applied for its own tax-exempt status under the name Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Project and became the separate organization that it is now.

Much about TRCP’s liberal roots remains the same today. TRCP’s partners include labor union groups such as the AFL-CIO, environmentalists, and other environmentalist front groups like Trout Unlimited, the Izaak Walton League of America, and Backcountry Hunters & Anglers. TRCP helps lead an alliance called “Sportsmen for Responsible Energy Development” with Trout Unlimited and the National Wildlife Federation.
Funding

Trout Unlimited, as a “fiscal sponsor” of the TRCP precursor Teddy Roosevelt Conservation Alliance, funneled more than $2 million from the Pew Charitable Trusts to the alliance. After TCRP received its own tax-exempt status in 2003, it found plenty of other environmentalist organizations to provide cash.

Far from a group relying on grassroots funding, TRCP relies on a handful of sugar daddies for financial backing. In 2010, a whopping 84% of TRCP donations came from only 10 donors. In 2011, TRCP received $2.3 million in grants from foundations—or nearly two-thirds of its income. And in 2012, 75% of TCRP donations came from a mere 8 donors.

TRCP has received 116 grants totaling $13 million since 2002. Major funders include the Turner Foundation ($2.3 million), the David and Lucile Packard Foundation ($835,000), the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation ($1.11 million), Pew Charitable Trusts ($1.55 million), and the Hewlett Foundation ($3.6 million). Other funders include the Joyce Foundation, McIntosh Foundation, the Thomas and Stacy Siebel Foundation, and the Knoblach Family Foundation.

There’s little doubt that the foundations veer strongly to the left, such as the Hewlett Foundation (gives millions to abortion provider Planned Parenthood), Joyce Foundation (gives millions to the anti-gun Violence Policy Center), and the David and Lucile Packard Foundation (gives millions to the pro-abortion NARAL).
Agenda

TRCP claims to be primarily about benefiting hunters and other sportsmen, and the group’s press releases beat that drum incessantly, invoking the word “sportsmen” ad nauseam. But TRCP really places radical, anti-industry environmentalism as its top agenda item.

Initially, grants were made to TRCP’s predecessor under descriptions such as “general support to engage hunters and anglers in activities that protect fish and wildlife in the National forest.” More recent grants display a more obviously environmentalist bent. Consider the following descriptions offered by granting foundations:

For TRCP’s “Energy Initiative Program” ($1,000,000, Hewlett Foundation, 2013)
For TRCP’s “Energy Initiative Program” ($912,500, Hewlett Foundation, 2011)
“Sportsmen for the conservation of the Chesapeake Bay.” ($40,000, Keith Campbell Foundation for the Environment, 2011)
“For the sportsmen for responsible energy development project.” ($200,000, William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, 2010)
“To engage hunters and fishers to advocate for federal conservation polices to improve water quality.” ($75,000, McKnight Foundation, 2010)
“Climate.” ($175,000, David and Lucile Packard Foundation, 2010)
“Climate and Agriculture” ($100,000, David and Lucile Packard Foundation, 2008)
“Transportation Communications Campaign” ($50,000, Keith Campbell Foundation for the Environment, 2008)
“To support the growing conservation campaign and the wetlands bill of rights campaign” ($100,000, McKnight Foundation, 2007)
“Engage America’s 40 million sportsmen and sportswomen and make possible their active participation in the national conservation policy arena” ($10,000, Surnda Foundation, 2006)

On the Sideline for the Second Amendment

TRCP claims to support the right to hunt and fish, and so it should be a vocal proponent of gun rights. But when pressed, TRCP couldn’t offer a stance. “[O]thers know far more than we do about the Second Amendment,” TRCP stated. Bizarrely, WyoFile reports that Whit Forsburgh, head of TRCP, “doesn’t view President Obama as a threat to gun rights.” TRCP’s non-stance is even stranger given that a portion of every sale of firearms and ammunition is earmarked for conservation programs.
Union Sportsmen’s Alliance

TRCP is also behind the formation of the Union Sportsmen’s Alliance (USA). A joint effort with 20 labor unions, the Union Sportsmen’s Alliance’s goal is “to lure the political allegiance of gun-owning union members away from the NRA and its political agenda”—and presumably toward that of liberal-backing labor groups. “[A]bout a quarter of union members said they belonged to the National Rifle Association, an affiliation that displeases some Democratic union leaders,” The Washington Post reported. The effort came with $1.2 million in seed money from labor to TRCP. The Union Sportsmen’s Alliance claims to be in favor of the Second Amendment, yet TRCP has received $150,000 from the anti-gun Joyce Foundation. Barack Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation between 1994 and 2002.
People

Former TRCP board chairman Katie Distler Eckman (2011-13) is the former executive director of the Turner Foundation, founded by environmentalist Ted Turner.

TRCP president and CEO Whit Fosburgh worked at Trout Unlimited for 15 years, a group that like TRCP receives millions from environmentalist interests. Before that, Fosburgh worked for left-wing U.S. Senator Tom Daschle (D-SD).
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